On Fri, 28 Aug 2009 04:08:11 +0200 Thanatermesis <thanatermesis.e...@gmail.com>
said:

> Ok I don't have read the code to know how exactly works internally but what
> I see (and my experience) is that:
> 
> When you drag an icon to your bar, it creates a entire new .desktop file to
> your .local directory with totally new values, some set by the user and some
> "automatic", but most of times they simply doesn't works (bad values), I
> have see a lot of different cases, most of them are applications that
> doesn't launch, applications that can't be added (when inserted to the bar,
> nothing appears), wrong/null icon, etc...

doesn't happen. i just dragged the gacltool icon from the calc window to ibar.
before:

 5:32PM ~/.local/share/applications > ls
total 68K
4.0K audacious.desktop                    4.0K start_nm.desktop
4.0K blender-fullscreen.desktop           4.0K start_xdpms.desktop
4.0K blender-windowed.desktop             4.0K start_xfonts.desktop
4.0K claws-mail.desktop                   4.0K start_xmodmap.desktop
4.0K firefox.desktop                      4.0K start_xmouse.desktop
4.0K rage-gl.desktop                      4.0K start_xrdb.desktop
4.0K rage.desktop                         4.0K sylpheed.desktop
4.0K start_alsa.desktop                   4.0K xterm.desktop
4.0K start_gnome-settings-daemon.desktop

after:

 5:32PM ~/.local/share/applications > ls
total 68K
4.0K audacious.desktop                    4.0K start_nm.desktop
4.0K blender-fullscreen.desktop           4.0K start_xdpms.desktop
4.0K blender-windowed.desktop             4.0K start_xfonts.desktop
4.0K claws-mail.desktop                   4.0K start_xmodmap.desktop
4.0K firefox.desktop                      4.0K start_xmouse.desktop
4.0K rage-gl.desktop                      4.0K start_xrdb.desktop
4.0K rage.desktop                         4.0K sylpheed.desktop
4.0K start_alsa.desktop                   4.0K xterm.desktop
4.0K start_gnome-settings-daemon.desktop

the same. no change. so this doesn't happen. :/ well not in this test case

> My thoughts are: if there's already an existing .desktop file, original,
> good-made, with the correct data on it, with full of translations, with the
> correct executable and parameters... why WTF we are going to change them to
> something from scratch, bad-auto-detected, and mostly-wrong ?, could be
> interesting that the user will modify manually some values, that YES... but
> only the ones modified by him! and the rest will remain untouched.
> 
> Like I say, this gives a lot of problems (just try to drag-n-drop a bunch of
> 10-20 applications to your bar and check all of them (icon image that not
> works as before, lost translations, wrong executable command set, wrong
> parameters of the executable, wmclass changed, error-prone values, big
> etc...)
> 
> There's also two reports by me from long time ago:
> 
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/365
> http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/ticket/357
> 
> 
> 
> Thanatermesis
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