I don't know what has got in to you lately, but I was not talking about or
referring to ephoto. Get off of your high horse and stop taking offense to
everything that gets said even when it has nothing to do with you. For your
information ephoto is widely used and the general consensus in the e world is
that elm is the problem and lacks terribly in design and implementation. There
is a whole lot more that I want to say and could say as you took to personally
insulting me, but I'm not going to drop to that level.
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----- Reply message -----
From: "Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri" <barbi...@profusion.mobi>
Date: Fri, Mar 11, 2011 8:34 am
Subject: [E-devel] (Re)moving stuff from SVN without author knowledge
To: "unixti...@gmail.com" <unixti...@gmail.com>
Cc: "Andreas Volz" <li...@brachttal.net>,
<enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 8:08 PM, unixti...@gmail.com
<unixti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I think you make a very good point Andreas. While the other side may argue
> that it is in public subversion and is open source code, at the same time the
> project still has an author with an idea and scope for the project. I think
> its rude to change the code of ones project and even the scope of it without
> any knowledge of the author. This has been happening to a lot of authors and
> projects over the past year or so maybe a little more. To all developers: get
> to know you're fellow developers!!! Communicate with them! Communication is a
> good thing. I promise.
>
Hi okra, here I have to disagree a bit. Or at least explain why these
things happened to you and ephoto:
1. I understood Ephoto was an E project, not a personal project
(as Andreas' PROTO/edje-player). Similarly that I don't go ask Raster
every change I did to Evas, Ecore, Edje or E itself, I did not feel
like asking permission to change it. SORRY, later own I realized
(actually after being told by many) that Ephoto was your lovely
playground and <rant>although the name, most E people don't use it to
see photos because it barely work.</rant>
2. You never grasped Elementary or other core components of EFL,
as you're not much into them. This reflected into the Nth rewrite of
Ephoto in Elementary being barely working. From basic things as
asynchronous listing of directories with eio to incremental sorting
with "insert ordered" means. You struggled with these and were not
going anywhere... partly because even Elementary lacked some
primitives in gengrid to do so, and you're not willing to do these,
instead opted to work around.
3. In a worthless movement, I tried to create a common feeling
among EFL applications by introduction of recommended "application
layouts" bundled in Elementary's theme. This resulted into changes to
Ephoto visual so it and other applications such as Eve, Enjoy and
Envision would look similar, with toolbars in the same place. It was
worthless as general consensus was that people should do whatever they
want as it was their own software. This actually resulted into lack of
motivation to work on our applications as no matter what amount of
work I did (even if I was allowed to do!) would not work as a it would
never provide "EFL experience" because "EFL experience" never existed,
it was dream I had but never existed in reality. Together with lack of
time, I went back to KDE applications (if you need a recommendation:
gwenview, amarok, okular and dolphin are excellent applications).
Seems that all we do, and from feedback I got, all we SHOULD do is
create personal applications to fit our own needs, the way we like
them, veto other changes.
After all this rant, sorry to change your pet project with stupid
dreams to have EFL applications. We're not ready to have such with
current mindset. Thank your for reminding me of such.
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