On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 06:53:04 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 01:55:49 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 20:32:30 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)
> > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 23:38:55 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com>
> > > said:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 5 Jan 2012 16:43:29 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The
> > > > Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Mon, 2 Jan 2012 21:09:19 +1000 David Seikel
> > > > > <onef...@gmail.com> said:
> > > > > 
> > > > > how will the lua be able to detect the api call is there
> > > > > safely without totally ceasing functioning.
> > > > 
> > > > That's a problem we will have to solve anyway.  I said -
> > > 
> > > i know. right now it can be a simple "needs version X of edje".
> > > for api that is transient (may or may not be provided by app
> > > loading edje file)... it's a different matter :)
> > 
> > It's a different problem, but solving the general case solves them
> > both.  B-)
> > 
> > > > > > Raster objected to this idea before, if I remember.  His
> > > > > > argument was, I think,"what if someone loads a Lua script
> > > > > > theme that uses one of these new APIs, but they are not
> > > > > > there?".  We are gonna have that problem now, and with each
> > > > > > subsequent release.  Anyone running a theme that expects
> > > > > > images, text, maps, and other stuff that I added to the last
> > > > > > release, but using the edje release before, is gonna be
> > > > > > sorely disappointed.  It only had rectangles and timers.
> > > > > > For the next release I expect to add textblock and sound
> > > > > > support at least.
> > > > 
> > > > (Glad I remembered your objection properly.)
> > > > 
> > > > Since I plan to reuse the same infrastructure we already have,
> > > > these new host app supplied functions will be in a
> > > > table+metatable created to hold them.  Like the existing image
> > > > table+metatable and evas image functions that it holds.  So
> > > > just like an edje Lua script could now call -
> > > > 
> > > > image.filled(true)
> > > > 
> > > > and work fine with the current edje release, but fail on the
> > > > previous release.  In the future it could call -
> > > > 
> > > > daves_funky_app.some_function(foo, "bar")
> > > > 
> > > > or -
> > > > 
> > > > textblock.textblock()
> > > > 
> > > > or even -
> > > > 
> > > > elementary.box()
> > > > 
> > > > If they are using the current edje release, all are trying to
> > > > use non existent API.  So the same thing should happen in all
> > > > cases.
> > > > 
> > > > I think we can add a metatable to the environment, and use the
> > > > usual mechanism for handling access to non existent data.
> > > > That's what I'll be experimenting with to solve the problem for
> > > > all cases. Once edje can safely detect the use of an undefined
> > > > object, it should bitch, ignore any effort to call one of it's
> > > > methods, and carry on.  Actually, if I remember, any unassigned
> > > > variable has the nil value, so perhaps we can add a metatable to
> > > > that?
> > > 
> > > well if we can have these calls safely return nils and not have
> > > lua barf entirely... that'll be good ;)
> > 
> > That's what I'll work on then.
> 
> I put a metatable on nil.  Works beautifully.  Even the ancient
> edje.spanky() code you put in a long time ago triggers it.  An error
> message is printed, the non existent function returns nil, and the
> script keeps running.
> 
> This will work for people using themes with new API on an old library
> (images on the old release, textblocks on the current release if they
> are added to the next release), using new functions on old API (for
> instance, if we add an edje.textblock() function in the future, but
> someone uses it with an old library), and host app provided API if not
> running under the host app that provides it (which I will add
> soonish).

I'll commit as soon as I can get past this - 

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