One thing I noticed when running some instances of terminology it that it is very processor hungry. For instance when running 'top' you may notice it figures among the first ones. This doesn't happen when you run top from gnome-terminal for instance.
Best regards, Etrunko On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:59 PM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jun 2012 13:13:06 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri > <barbi...@profusion.mobi> wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 1:06 PM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:29:57 +0900 Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) >> > <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2012 00:47:40 +1000 David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> >> >> said: >> >> >> >> > > > It's the "when you bring it up" part that's the problem. >> >> > > > Tabs don't need to be "brought up" to show you the info they >> >> > > > display. You don't have to do anything to keep an eye on >> >> > > > programs that change the tab text to show you progress or >> >> > > > something important other than look up (on the tabs that's >> >> > > > not the one you are using right now). You don't have to do >> >> > > > anything to see which tab is which when you carefully name >> >> > > > them. This is not better for those uses of tabs. It hides >> >> > > > the info you want to see at a glance and makes it a separate >> >> > > > step to get to that info. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Most of my terminal tabs are running MC, some on the same >> >> > > > directories, they will look identical or almost identical in >> >> > > > a thumbnail that's small enough to show them all. That's not >> >> > > > gonna help me at all. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > Doing something different is good, it's just not "better" if >> >> > > > it removes useful functionality. Your idea is good, it just >> >> > > > removes useful functionality that is provided with tabs. >> >> > > > It's no substitute for tabs, it's something completely >> >> > > > different. >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > The tabs themselves aren't very useful either. All they do is >> >> > > show the terminal title, which is useless most of the time, so >> >> > > you wont be able to differentiate between them if you just sat >> >> > > down in front of that terminal for the first time. At the end >> >> > > of the day, most of us probably use hotkeys to jump between >> >> > > tabs, and that will work just as well in a wp2 context. >> >> > >> >> > You don't quite understand what I'm saying. Those terminal >> >> > titles in the tabs is EXACTLY the functionality that would be >> >> > missed. They contain information that is useful some times to >> >> > some people. That >> >> >> >> you made my point for me.. SOME of the time SOME people want just a >> >> title. SOME. ... MOST don't go run the exact same identical thing >> >> so its unrecognisable in N tabs. optimize for the common case >> >> first. >> > >> > You where not talking about optimising a common case, you where >> > talking about throwing out the antiquated idea of tabs coz you >> > thought you could do it better. I'm pointing out that "better" >> > does not mean throwing away perfectly good functionality. >> > >> > Sooo, programs want to display their little bit of text on the term >> > title / tab for whatever reason. Where does this little bit of text >> > go? A tab is the perfect spot for it. You still have not answered >> > the basic fundamental problem, how are you replacing this >> > functionality with your "better" idea? >> > >> > You are only implementing half the functionality, and trying to >> > brush off the other half coz it does not fit into your idea of what >> > a flash program should look like. Most people are not expecting >> > flash from a terminal program. >> > >> > You can make it flash all you want, but if it's only doing half the >> > job, you can't call it "better". >> > >> > Most people don't want to show a video as the background for their >> > terminal. Can't say you are optimising for any common case there. >> > lol >> > >> > It's not like tabs is harder than what you want to do. You just >> > think it's too old fashioned to WANT to do it. >> >> Exactly and these are the points I'm arguing with him... but he won't >> listen, it's his thing and it must be good for him and that's it. So >> far I gave up on this, let's just make it a lib and we can have a "old >> fashioned" term for those who want them. > > Maybe one of us might find the time to just implement tabs dammit and > commit. Purely optional so he can't complain. B-) > > I'm thinking of doing that for unlimited scroll back. > > Apart from low resource usage and speed (which should be a given for EFL > developers); I only want a few things from a terminal program. Proper > tabs; unlimited scroll back; and if you're gonna use keystrokes for > commands, let me disable them so that the actual terminal programs I use > can get them. I'd switch to terminology in an instant if it had all > three. > > Compatibility with MC used to be on that list, but with this terminal > library I'm making, a MC clone is one of the use cases. So eventually > I'll not care less about MC, I'll have my own. 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