On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Jul 2012 13:45:59 -0300 Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
> <[email protected]> said:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 11:56 AM, ChunEon Park <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> > Even the raser is correct,
>> > Unfortunately, you don't need the conformant for indicator in Tizen.
>> >
>> > You just need a layout.(what I gave you sample)
>> >
>> > and appcore is needed for app developers in Tizen.
>> > Appcore will nofity apps when they should be paused and when they can be
>> > resumed (by phone call, alarm such as things.)
>> >
>>
>> BTW, this is TOTALLY strange from an EFL point of view.
>
> bingo. things like "pause and resume" are already part of being iconified and
> uniconified. you get callbacks PER WINDOW for these... the appcore model is
> wrong.

Sure. For a sane situation one could handle the critical parts as one
single process that spawns multiple windows that behaves like multiple
applications, each having its own concept of application.

Think about settings, dialer and sms. They are quite critical to a
phone and interlinked. Both dialer and sms talks to the modem.
Settings talks to both in a critical way.


>> Is someone working on making proper integration with EFL? Stefan? Daniel?
>>
>> As everything else these things should be dispatched as ecore_event_add()
>> and peers could listen and react. Like we do for SIGQUIT/SIGINT...
>
> correct. well events for things that are not bound to specific windows (a
> window being minimized or whatever is per-window). appcore allows u to have
> just a single func for each of these events. you can't set multiple event
> handlers for different parts/subsystems in your app etc.

yes, it's an alien and very weird... again I really wonder who let
this design go out to public. Horrible.


>> Do you have more details on how these signals are notified to the app? Are
>> them X11 messages/atoms? DBus?... please don't tell me they are the
>> IPC-over-GConf I've seen in many parts of Tizen I've looked (I wonder who
>> had the awesome idea of broadcasting the network name/strength using gconf
>> -- GENIUS)
>
> i had hoped to forget about that and never have it bring on a headache again. 
> :)

ha ha ha.

If people want to have fun... or get angry, or provide some quotes to
"dailywtf" is just opening Tizen specific source code at
review.tizen.org.

For appreciation:

   
https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=pkgs/e/e17-extra-private-modules.git;a=blob;f=config-slp/src/e_mod_main.c;h=e8b8505ff4928fe8142d9aba04355dea4c72e71b;hb=refs/heads/master#l115
      e17 module that does system ("/bin/touch /opt/etc/.profile_ready");

   
https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=pkgs/e/e17-extra-modules.git;a=blob;f=wmready/src/e_mod_main.c;h=87575ec01eaafb75fa53e243ec70c37304b91de3;hb=HEAD
      e17 module that is a piece of art on its own. Particularly:
         // set flag for hibernation
         system ("/usr/bin/vconftool set -t int
\"memory/hibernation/xserver_ready\" 1 -i -f");

         system ("/bin/touch /tmp/.wm_ready");

And what makes me cry is this: getting network information (contrast
with oFono):
https://review.tizen.org/git/?p=api/network-info.git;a=blob;f=src/telephony_network.c;h=99efab9585fd7647c2366965a2bdb6d11d48c930;hb=HEAD

no more.

-- 
Gustavo Sverzut Barbieri
http://profusion.mobi embedded systems
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