I personally use the win key for the border menu as you've said. It's easy enough to change this, but perhaps we should add a wizard option?
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 12:31 PM, David Seikel <onef...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, 30 Nov 2012 13:17:51 +0100 Thanatermesis > <thanatermesis.e...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I saw somebody turning crazy in E17 with a simple problem: "photoshop > > doesn't accept the very-needed Alt key", more exactly she runs a > > virtualbox with windows on it, and since Alt is very used in e17 for > > move windows, the binding is not passed to the entire OS that runs on > > virtualbox, the solution was to remove the alt+mouse binding entirely > > on E17, note that this is a common problem on most window-managers > > > > I have reported the bug in the past in #1767 , the answer by zmike > > was: > > > > > not sure how you "recently" discovered this since it's a problem > > > with > > every window manager that uses alt+mouse to move windows (ie. all > > window managers). > > > > > short answer: not our problem. if you want alt+click in an > > > application, > > don't bind alt+click. > > > > > long answer: there's no sane way to determine whether a user wants > > > to use > > an alt+click binding in a window management context or inside the > > application. trying to add filters for this would be foolish, a waste > > of time, and impossible to do properly. > > > > > > Which is correct, but... that's not what we do with the 3D/GL > > blacklisted graphic cards in evas ? > > > > This happens also in other window-managers, but e17 is a lot better > > than that, isn't ? :) , so could be nice to have a new feature in the > > bindings (another config named "filtered bindings?") where the user > > can assign some bindings to ignore, and we can ship e17 with > > predefined filters that the user can change (for example on this > > case, if window = virtualbox ; ignore alt+mouse binding) > > > > The solution doesn't sounds really complicated, but is important to > > remember that virtualbox (or more exactly a "virtualized windows") is > > a very common use by the users which needs to work correctly, and the > > alt key is entirely not working in the entire OS (not only photoshop) > > > > By other side, as another example, think about running a > > virtualmachine with any E17 OS on it, if you want to resize or move a > > window on this e17 you are unable and you simply move/resize the > > virtualbox itself, giving a giant lack of usability to that > > vritualized E17 environment > > At alternative is to have a config option to use the Win key instead of > the Alt key. All sorts of other programs also want to use Alt this and > Alt that. I've not met any program that uses the Win key. Using it > for window managers makes sense. Certainly should be an option. It's > a pain to change all the bindings, which I do have to do every time I > have to wipe out my E17 config. > > Most keyboards have it, even Macs have their own variation. > > On the other hand, that's gonna be a problem with virtual computers. > Both computers might want the same key / mouse events for their own. I > think they have key / mouse capture for that reason. > > -- > A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants > coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: > TUNE You got it built. Now make it sing. Tune shows you how. > http://goparallel.sourceforge.net > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-devel mailing list > enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Keep yourself connected to Go Parallel: TUNE You got it built. Now make it sing. Tune shows you how. http://goparallel.sourceforge.net _______________________________________________ enlightenment-devel mailing list enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-devel
