On 02/17/2013 01:15 PM, المسالم المسالمة wrote:
>> I've already commented at length about the only aspect to this
>> that merits any serious discussion - perhaps you missed that?
>>
>> But since you seem to want some serious critical feedback:
>>
>> Think you there's any shortage of people out there with graphical
>> user interface designs? How many do you see sending 'gifs' of their
>> mockups to the e devel list?
>> What makes you think your gif is so excellent, so much better than
>> any other gui-shell designs out there, that people will go crazy over it
>> and thus convince e17 devs to "get rid of this old fashioned desktop look"
>> that those clueless e17 people have spent so much time constructing...
>> and go with yours instead
>
> ?
>>
>>
> did you see me once have tried just tried to mock-up some people here
>
> you seemed to be confused
>
> who did mock the other one .... me .... or the people who speaks with dirty
> talk

You need to have a thicker skin here. :) No one here is mocking your 
*ideas*. People are simply having some fun *but at the same time* asking 
for more information.

It is not like your ideas or implementation can not coexist with the 
current interface. Look at elfe which is a completely different 
interface and is happily residing in svn, albeit unofficially:
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/elfe

Look at engage, which is a very good dock, but is in svn, still 
unofficially:
http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/E-MODULES-EXTRA/engage

You can not right away expect people to throw away the current 
implementation and design and adopt a radically new design. One has to 
be patient, show the code, and over time it might migrate to be a core e 
module/interface. This is what happened with many of the modules that 
are currently in an official e distribution - systray, tasks, keyboard, 
run everything, etc.



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