Unrelated: please fix your client.
I'm having a really hard time to follow the discussion.

On 03/09/13 15:02, ChunEon Park wrote:
> Why do they must know the internal item recycling policies?
>
> -> Already genlist mentioned the concept.  and if they don't know or they 
> dont wanna know this, there is no need to use genlist but list.
>
>   * - @c "realized" - This is called when the item in the list is created as a
>   *   real evas object. event_info parameter is the genlist item that was
>   *   created.
>   * - @c "unrealized" - This is called just before an item is unrealized.
>   *   After this call content objects provided will be deleted and the item
>   *   object itself delete or be put into a floating cache.

Yeah, those are a few obscure lines in the documentation no one will 
read unless they specifically care about those signals.

>
>
> Also,
> clarify, where do you plan on using those? Just locally at
> realise/unrealise?
> It doesn't matter if it's not *only* for genlist, if it's available for
> genlist and that's bad, then it's bad.
>
> -> I don't use. and I dont need. Just think the scenario.  if user wanna 
> create a hover based on the center of the selected item.

Why are you fighting so hard if you don't really use it or need it? I 
can think about that scenario, and the proper solution for that would be 
"item_geometry_get", something I think that already exists.
>
>
> Just adding APIs we think are bad reduce the code quality and the
> incentive to fix it and think more about it.
> You obviously need this capability, either because you need it for an
> app of yours, your manager is forcing you, or you just think it's
> needed. Whatever your reason is, that's your incentive to working on it.
> This will disappear the moment you put the "bad" code in.
>
> -> Nobody forced to me. And I don't care of the manger or whatever. I just 
> added for users. because i thought it's the negotiated result at this moment. 
> It's not just adding API i said, there are no proper/clean solution than 
> this.  And sure i agree,  if there is  more effective and clean solution code 
> for replacing it. then it's ok remove it. I will agree.

Re-read what I said. What I'm saying that no better solution will be 
sought after as long as there is a solution in.

>
> I'm unhappy. No apps are dead, because none really use it. We don't really 
> have that many apps that use textblock. But they could die,
> unless really really careful.
> -> This is same case. so it needs to warn them those cases.

Same case in what way? You'd like people not to use the API? :)

Anyhow, I've said what I have to say, and since everyone (that replied) 
disagree with you I see no reason for me to waste more energy on this 
matter.

--
Tom.

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