Hi Rasterman,

Unfortunately I have to decline. I haven't found a good subject to talk about. 
And I am afraid that the presentation will give a wrong impression of 
enlightenment/EFL. There is also a big change that I will not attend the 
Software Freedom Day.

I am sorry if I gave fales hope.

Greetings,

Mark-Willem 'rawnar' Jansen
P.S.: I am still interested in EFL/enlightenment. Maybe I dan bring some orange 
to the dev pool.

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> Date: Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:06:16 +0900
> From: ras...@rasterman.com
> To: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
> CC: markwil...@hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Fw: Enlightenment presentation? (ping #2)
>
> On Tue, 3 Sep 2013 09:38:45 +0200 Mark-Willem Jansen <markwil...@hotmail.com>
> said:
>
>>
>>
>>> Date: Mon, 2 Sep 2013 21:42:59 +0900
>>> From: ras...@rasterman.com
>>> To: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net
>>> CC: markwil...@hotmail.com
>>> Subject: Re: [E-devel] Fw: Enlightenment presentation? (ping #2)
>>>
>>> On Mon, 2 Sep 2013 10:52:21 +0200 Mark-Willem Jansen
>>> <markwil...@hotmail.com> said:
>>>
>>>> Hi Rasterman,
>>>>
>>>> I live in the East of the Netherlands and I am thinking about attending
>>>> the Software Freedom Day. Unfortunately I know to little about the present
>>>> enlightenment development that I will not be able to give a presentation
>>>> and let alone answer difficult questions.
>>>>
>>>> In the past I did some small hacks on modules, but that is how far my
>>>> experience goes with development. I do use e17 on a daily basis.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, are there any Dutchmen working actively on the enlightenment project?
>>>
>>> you could do something from a user point of view? like what makes e good for
>>> you? is it good for you? where? why? :)
>>
>> I doubt it if I can fill a whole presentation about my experience with e.
>>
>> What kind of people will be attending this SFD2013?
>
> i don't actually know. i've never been and i know nothing about it beyond the
> email :)
>
>> In the next few days I will try to catch-up on the latest developments of
>> EFL/e17/e18/e19. Maybe I can come up with a topic to talk about.
>
> sure! i think we need a yes or no response really soon though - people are
> probably making plans. :)
>
>>> as for dutch guys.... hmm no - not at the moment anyway in tersm of active
>>> devs... we're dutch-free :)
>>
>> I do not know if this is a good think or a bad think. ;-)
>
> it's a bad thing. we need more orange! :)
>
>>>> --
>>>> Mark-Willem "rawnar" Jansen
>>>>
>>>>> Date: Thu, 29 Aug 2013 17:20:19 +0900
>>>>> From: ras...@rasterman.com
>>>>> To: enlightenment-devel@lists.sourceforge.net;
>>>>> enlightenment-us...@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: [E-devel] Fw:
>>>>> Enlightenment presentation? (ping #2)
>>>>>
>>>>> is anyone nearish amsterdam mid sept who wants to do this? :) this is a
>>>>> second ping in case someone missed the first... ?
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin chunk 'o stuff:
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: Sat, 03 Aug 2013 00:44:39 +0200
>>>>> From: Bas de Lange <b...@basdelange.com>
>>>>> To: ras...@rasterman.com
>>>>> Subject: Enlightenment presentation?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Dear Rasterman,
>>>>>
>>>>> We are looking for someone from the Amsterdam area willing to give a
>>>>> talk about Enlightenment during Software Freedom Day 2013 at the CWI,
>>>>> Science Park Amsterdam. This on wednesday 18th of september:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.softwarefreedomday.eu/
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, we are also organising the International Bitcoin Conference 2013
>>>>> at the Science Park Amsterdam. This on wednesday 6th to friday 8th of
>>>>> november. If you know people interested, please inform them?
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bitcoinference.com/
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> International Bitcoin Conference 2013, wednesday 6 to friday 8 november
>>>>> Science Park Amsterdam
>>>>>
>>>>> http://bitcoinference.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Met vriendelijke groet,
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Bas de Lange
>>>>>
>>>>> +31 (0)6 166 26 950
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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