A possible solution.

S.

Stefan Schmidt <ste...@datenfreihafen.org>:

>Hello.
>
>On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 09:10, Sebastian Dransfeld wrote:
>> 
>> On 12/10/2013 08:19 AM, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>> > Hello.
>> >
>> > On Tue, 2013-12-10 at 14:32, Carsten Haitzler wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 20:23:39 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
>> >> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
>> >>
>> >>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 09:34:57 +0900
>> >>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 19:02:50 -0500 Michael Blumenkrantz
>> >>>> <michael.blumenkra...@gmail.com> said:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> On Tue, 10 Dec 2013 08:51:50 +0900
>> >>>>> Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote:
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>> On Mon, 9 Dec 2013 14:37:58 +0100 Stefan Schmidt
>> >>>>>> <ste...@datenfreihafen.org> said:
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> Hello.
>> >>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 14:28, Stefan Schmidt wrote:
>> >>>>>>>> Hello.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> On Mon, 2013-12-09 at 07:11, Jeff Hoogland wrote:
>> >>>>>>>>> I'm not sure this is the case - just like Simon alpha4 builds fine
>> >>>>>>>>> here.
>> >>>>>>>> Really strange. I reviewd the commits that gone into rc1 and efl
>> >>>>>>>> 1.8.2 but I can't see anything that broke this. Also its building
>> >>>>>>>> fine for me and on jenkins.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>>> At any rate I guess I'll try just disabling physics then.
>> >>>>>>>> Please do. The physics module was not really maintained and Mike
>> >>>>>>>> just removed it so it will be gone in the next rc and the final
>> >>>>>>>> release anyway.
>> >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>>>>> Having it disabled manually for the rc1 should be ok for the people
>> >>>>>>>> encountering this problem. Does that sound good for you guys?
>> >>>>>>> To avoid any more confusion on this Mike and I decided that I will
>> >>>>>>> prepare a new rc1 tarball with the removal commit and upload it. Will
>> >>>>>>> send a mail once its up.
>> >>>>>> how about.. rc2? :)
>> >>>>> I don't want to drag this process out unnecessarily.
>> >>>> there are still bugs being filed on phab... and i was more making the 
>> >>>> point
>> >>>> that re-spinning a tarball with the same name/version is not a good 
>> >>>> thing.
>> >>>> "which rc1 do you have?" "i don't know. rc1!". :) if there is a 
>> >>>> re-spin.. at
>> >>>> least call it rc2... :) i could have done a "re spin" for 1.8.1 (another
>> >>>> 1.8.0) as no code changed - it was a m4 macro doing the totally 
>> >>>> unexpected.
>> >>>> but i had to do 1.8.1 :(
>> >>>>
>> >>> there was no "re spin" as you call it. the tarballs sent to the list were
>> >>> PREVIEW tarballs, and it was explicitly stated that they may or may not 
>> >>> have
>> >>> been the final release tarballs for those versions. you absolutely could 
>> >>> not
>> >>> have done the same thing, as you did not send your prepared tarballs to 
>> >>> any
>> >>> lists prior to doing the release.
>> >> so i downloaded rc1. is mine fixed? :) you didn't answer that. how do i 
>> >> know if
>> >> its the respin or not before i download it?
>> >>
>> >> even for rc's if there is a re-generate at sall it should get a new name 
>> >> for
>> >> the archive. rc2, rc3, rc4 etc. imho
>> > It is clear what you mean. The problem is that we want to publish
>> > tarballs _before_ we make them final. Even for rc or alphas.
>> >
>> > I agree that the way I updated the tarball was a bit problematic. I
>> > see two ways out of this. a) a staging area where we upload tarballs
>> > for testing and only move them over to the final destination once we
>> > call them final or b) do as you suggest and increment the number
>> > every time the tarball changes but keep it on the correct location.
>> >
>> > The later could also cause confusion when you have to bump the number
>> > in to short time to allow more testing. Like you fixed one problem,
>> > re-upload with higher number and do it again shortly afterwards for
>> > another bug. You wanted to release 1.8.1 but end up with 1.8.3 within
>> > a day before the actual announcement. We could do rc's for stable
>> > updates as well.
>> >
>> > None of the solutions is really convenient. Need to ponder this.
>> >
>> 
>> checksum file
>
>You mean we miss them in general from our releases or that it could be
>used as a solution to this?
>
>regards
>Stefan Schmidt
>
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