On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 18:44:08 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> said:

> I have panes with a lot of content inside of them that are contained in a
> scroller yes.

you're using what looks like regular panes and they resize anywhere along the
edge...

> For an example of what I mean, see my sorted list test here ->
> https://github.com/JeffHoogland/python-elm-extensions
> 
> On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 5:56 PM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 10:28:53 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > said:
> >
> > > The problem is with every theme - including the default. As I said in the
> > > first email - I have a very tall pane and it would be ideal if the user
> > > didn't have to scroll to the middle 50% in order to drag it.
> >
> > only with flush panes. not default. flush uses only the middle because of
> > flushness to reduce the amount of input space removed from content. why do
> > they
> > have to scroll? just shuffle mouse down the screen a bit... putting panes
> > inside a scroller?
> >
> > > I've worked around this lack of a feature by creating a separate pane at
> > > the very top of my window that is linked to the lower one, but this isn't
> > > ideal.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 12:57 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, 15 Apr 2015 00:06:52 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
> > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > > > said:
> > > >
> > > > > Leaving something like this to the theme is frustrating and creates
> > an
> > > > > inconsistent user experience.
> > > >
> > > > leaving it to the programmer is worse. :) the theme is meant to come
> > from
> > > > a ui
> > > > designer who has decided what ui is nice/good - it's then consistent
> > for
> > > > the
> > > > user across the theme on his system. leaving it to the programmer means
> > > > every
> > > > developer thinks he knows better and you end up with more
> > inconsistency.
> > > >
> > > > elm supports styles. we have 2 styles of panes already provided by
> > default.
> > > > "default" and "flush".
> > > >
> > > > flush has no gap (terminology uses these). the middle ~50% of the pane
> > is
> > > > dragable - the rest is not. you get an overlayed glow when you
> > mouseover
> > > > this
> > > > area (it's large as in it's 50% of the length of the pane divider). it
> > was
> > > > done
> > > > this way because as a "flush" deign with no space for a handle, having
> > the
> > > > entire thing dragable leads to lots of inadvertent hilighting of the
> > pane
> > > > dragger and it becomes REALLY hard to have widgets inside the pane
> > > > contents as
> > > > ALL of the edge is off limits for 1/2 of a finger size. at least you
> > still
> > > > get
> > > > the top and bottom 25% for controls in corners (terminology makes full
> > use
> > > > of
> > > > this "fact").
> > > >
> > > > so no need to target some small little button.
> > > >
> > > > the default style in elm's default theme allows the whole pane to be
> > > > dragged,
> > > > so 100% is dragable - but it consumes spacing.
> > > >
> > > > i suspect your problem is with your theme and it's designer deciding a
> > drag
> > > > handle is a small area in the middle of the pane - that is their
> > decision.
> > > > theme defines ui design to a very large extent - even things like this.
> > > >
> > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 9:48 PM, Carsten Haitzler <
> > ras...@rasterman.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > On Sat, 21 Mar 2015 13:26:36 -0500 Jeff Hoogland
> > > > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com>
> > > > > > said:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Is there an option to allow panes to be clickable anywhere along
> > the
> > > > > > break
> > > > > > > instead of just in the very center? I have some panes that are
> > very
> > > > large
> > > > > > > and would prefer if the user didn't have to scroll down/up to
> > change
> > > > the
> > > > > > > size.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > it can be done in theme... :)
> > > > > >
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