On Thu, 10 Dec 2015 09:49:00 -0200 Felipe Magno de Almeida
<[email protected]> said:

> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, 9 Dec 2015 17:36:43 -0200 Felipe Magno de Almeida
> > <[email protected]> said:
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > On Tue, 8 Dec 2015 14:51:01 -0800 Cedric BAIL <[email protected]> said:
> >> >
> >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 10:17 PM, Carsten Haitzler <[email protected]>
> >> >> wrote:
> >> >> > On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:54:02 -0200 Felipe Magno de Almeida
> >> >> > <[email protected]> said:
> >> >> >> We have a policy of not auto-detection for configure and as little
> >> >> >> optional options as possible.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> However, the JavaScript binding is a complicated beast because it can
> >> >> >> be compiled against node.js, or against libv8, or against libv8 and
> >> >> >> libuv. And this option must be made at autotools configure time.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Cedric has proposed the generation would always happen to a specific
> >> >> >> sub-directory where it could be configured separately and compiled.
> >> >> >> However, I think this complicates things and I don't really see much
> >> >> >> benefit.
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Currently, I have added a --with-js option which can be used as:
> >> >> >> --with-js=nodejs/--with-js=libv8/--with-js=libuv.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > can we do this runtime with dlopen/dlsym fun?
> >> >>
> >> >> Highly unlikely due to C++ mangling and the amount of inlined code
> >> >> difference (think template and friends).
> >> >
> >> > not v8 - we have to compile against v8 headers and a libv8.. but what
> >> > about libuv, other node.js symbols that are exported that we might rely
> >> > on. these?
> >> >
> >> > v8 is common here and we rely on c++ api/abi and linking to build - so
> >> > that stays as-is, but the othe rbits.. can we dl*() them at ruuntime?
> >>
> >> I think libuv it seems we could. I'm not sure about node.js. I'll have to
> >> check.
> >>
> >> Do you mean to compile-in node.js and libuv always? That makes sense.
> >
> > yes. then we dont have to compile-time choose if its pure v8 or v8+node+uv
> >
> >> The only problem is where to find the v8 header. The location priority
> >> for the headers is different depending if it is compilled for node.js
> >> or not. If it uses the wrong header, it will break because it is not
> >> ABI-compatible.
> >
> > aaaaah ok. that's an issue. hmmm. and the v8 shipped with node may differ
> > from a libv8 installed and even if we were to ship our own v8 headers
> > "magically" - these may not match either. argh. ok. painful.
> >
> > one thing here. a non-node version is far less useful. without a runtime,
> > just linking against v8 is pretty useless, unless we provide that runtime
> > ourselves... right?
> 
> The idea of allowing using libv8 directly is that the user could use EFL
> binding embedded in an application. And then themselves would actually
> interpret and run the JavaScript code and register the EFL runtime directly,
> by initializing
> it through the register_* functions.

isn't that kind of hard given v8 changes abi a lot? unless app itself provides
v8 - then we have the same node issue?

> This allows great flexibility on how to run JavaScript code with EFL. However,
> it requires the user to deal with libv8 directly and write C++ code to make
> use of this.
> 
> The EFL could itself create a libv8 interpreter and register manually,
> for example,
> to allow JavaScript code in edje without node.js but with access to the whole
> binding. This could be how Bob would begin.

tho bob was ... lua :)

> >
> >> Regards,
> >> --
> >> Felipe Magno de Almeida
> 
> Regards,
> -- 
> Felipe Magno de Almeida
> 


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