On Thu, 7 Jul 2016 13:18:55 +0200 Stefan Schmidt <ste...@osg.samsung.com> wrote:
> Hello. > > > On 07/07/16 12:53, Simon Lees wrote: > > > > On 07/07/2016 06:08 PM, Stefan Schmidt wrote: > >> Hello. > >> > >> > >> Nobody can be fooled here, we are late. :-) > >> > >> > >> While the big merges of Elementary, Evas Generic Loaders and > >> emotion Generic Players went better that I expected we are running > >> out of time for interfaces. > >> > >> We delayed and hoped we would get in done and could still put it > >> into 1.18, but looking at it now that seems impossible, if we do > >> not want to delay even longer. > >> > >> > >> So here is the new plan. > >> > >> o If you have some loose ends with a _realistic_ chance to get > >> fixed you have the next week for this. > >> > >> o We switch EO and all interfaces back into BETA, all new code > >> stays as is but is not officially released. > >> > >> o I will do the hard freeze and alpha release on Monday 18.07 > >> (tentative date). > >> > >> o After that we try our normal 4 weeks stabilization window (my > >> glass ball is a bit dusty so I have a hard time to predict if 4 > >> weeks are enough here) > >> > >> > >> Any objections or comments? > >> > > The downside to this from my perspective is there are certain e21 > > features that are using this api conditionally compiled out (I > > think the new gadget system), currently i'll be taking 1.18 into > > the next openSUSE release which means these features won't make it > > to e21 in that release so from that perspective for me if the > > release takes another month to get out right that would be better > > but if its going to take much more then that then it would be touch > > and go as to including it in the release anyway so if it will take > > longer then that additional month it may as well be done now. > > OK, this is getting a bit confused. For everything wayland or drm > this should change nothing. These parts do not use eo and will stay > as they are right now for the release. > If parts are marked as beta aright now they would so for the release. > If they are public APIs they would also stay this way. > > For e21 doin a release now would actually help. > > The other thing to note is this week there seems to have been a lot > > of testing going on and fixes going in that along with the fact > > that most apps in existence arn't using the new api's anyway maybe > > with another tech preview in the next 2 weeks before the api's are > > finalised we could cut the stabilization window back to 3 weeks. > > With promises not being settled we still have a long way to go before > the new APIs are in a stage where people would start using them in > their application widely. For what it's worth, my big experimental 3D world project tries to make use of a lot of this new EO API stuff. It's a wide application that is not widely used, yet. B-) -- A big old stinking pile of genius that no one wants coz there are too many silver coated monkeys in the world.
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