On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 12:18:51 -0700 (PDT)
Shish <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Also, I'm on dialup, and it works fine. The whole "time to waste"
> seems odd too- what does *your* computer do while you sleep? I would
> guess that for most people, not something too productive...
> 

When I first attempted to install Gentoo I was on Mandrake 8.2/9.0 or
something. I had a winmodem in my laptop which worked fine in Mandrake,
but at that time I had no clue as to how I could get the Gentoo
installation to load a lt_modem kernel module. For me, at that time I
found the attempt to install Gentoo overly frustrating. I'm sure if I
had had a real modem the install would have been much more satisfying.

Usually when I'm sleeping my computer is taking part in the Great
Internet Mersenne Prime Search (GIMPS) 
http://www.mersenne.org/prime.htm

> > compiling everything per someone else's emerge scripts
> 
> So do you use someone else's ./configure && make && make install, or
> do you do things your own way? :p Portage is basically C/M/MI, but
> with dependancy tracking built in (and some other odd bits)

Yes, of course I use the software author's configure scripts, I figure
they know how to build their software. But I never simply ./configure &&
make && make install. What if the program sucks and I want to remove it?
What if the default install spreads config files across a dozen
directories? At the very minimum, ie. when I'm lazy, I'll ./configure
--prefix=/usr --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var (or /var/log). Then
I'll make; create a description-pak file; su; checkinstall. If I'm less
lazy, I'll also make a doc-pak directory first. Usually I'll skip the
checkinstall, make install DESTDIR=/tmp/something; cd /tmp/something;
check permissions, gzip man pages, ensure doc files are where I
want them, make a slack-desc file, strip binaries if needed, etc. Then
makepkg. Then install my newly built package.


> Once the Immense Shiny Thing that is E17 is released, and all the
> shiny thing collectors flock to it, what are you going to do about the
> reputation of E being no more than a shiny toy for n00bs?

I hope that day comes soon...I'll deal with the annoyance then. :)


> > Runlevels
> 
> Coming from SuSE / Mandrake / RedHat, I'm not sure of how BSD does
> boot scripts, but I must say that Gentoo handles them very nicely
> (Yeah, I'm looking into BSD to see how that works already...)
> 
> The runlevels are more meta-runlevels, as there's no link to init -
> and they're named, so you can do things like "rc offline" to go into
> the "offline" runlevel, which figures service dependancies (calculated
> dependancies are much nicer than giving each /etc/rc/ link a number
> and hoping you got them in the right order) and takes down the
> network-dependant things. Then rc-update to add/remove services from
> runlevels, and rc-status to show which services are active.

The simplicity that is Slackware's init scripts is that there are NO
symlinks. No K01Something, S01Something, etc. There are not separate
directories for each runlevel. All the init scripts are in /etc/rc.d/
If I want a service to run before or after another service I start it
in the appropriate place in rc.M. Here is an excerpt of my rc.M.

# Start the ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) daemon:
if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid ]; then
  . /etc/rc.d/rc.acpid start
fi

# Load ALSA (sound) defaults:
if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa ]; then
  . /etc/rc.d/rc.alsa
fi

To get ALSA to load before ACPI, I just move it up in the file. If I
want to disable a service, I just make /etc/rc.d/rc.servicename
non-executable. The rc.servicename scripts have the usual
start|stop|restart options.

Here is the contents of my /etc/rc.d/

rc.0
rc.4
rc.6
rc.K
rc.M
rc.S
rc.acpid
rc.alsa
rc.atalk
rc.bind
rc.cups
rc.dnsmasq
rc.font
rc.gpm
rc.hotplug
rc.httpd
rc.inet1
rc.inet1.conf
rc.inet2
rc.inetd
rc.ip_forward
rc.local
rc.lprng
rc.modules
rc.mysqld
rc.nfsd
rc.pcmcia
rc.portmap
rc.samba
rc.sendmail
rc.serial
rc.sshd
rc.syslog
rc.sysvinit
rc.udev
rc.wireless
rc.wireless.conf
rc.yp


Brad


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