On Fri, 23 Sep 2005 20:48:41 +1000 David Seikel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> On Thu, 22 Sep 2005 22:32:11 -0400 (EDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > Actually I had this problem with a gentoo install a little while ago,
> > the login process for some reason wasn't triggering the usual scripts
> > for a login shell, so e17 was starting without any of the profile
> > scripts triggering (/etc/profile, ~/.bash_profile). Consequently all
> > of gentoo's environment configurations in /etc/env.d weren't loading
> > up, the path being just one of the problems.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I can't remember for the life of me how I fixed it
> > without resorting to hacks in the bashrc or session files. If I
> > remember I'll let you know.
> 
> Hacks to session and startup scripts is exactly how I fixed entranced,
> just sprinkled calls to /etc/profile librally.  Entranced seems a little
> brittle and fussy.
> 
> My symptoms are that the keyboard gets mostly locked out.  I am unable
> to type user name and password which makes entranced exceedingly
> useless.  If I use Ctrl-Alt-F1 to switch to a text virtual terminal, so
> that I can log in as root and kill entranced, the screen goes black for
> a few seconds and then I am returned to the entranced screen, so no
> access to VT's (my monitor blacks out for a few seconds when changing
> resolution, this may or may not be the same blackout).  Ctrl-Alt-Del
> won't reboot, so my only option is to kill the power.

ctrl+alt+f1 problems are likely x problems, not entrace. there is a power off
button too :) but well entrance is not production ready and likely will not be
for a long long time. use at your own risk.

> 
> This usually doesn't happen when I run entranced manually, or invoke
> it's startup script manually.  When the startup script is started as
> part of the boot sequence, it almost always happens.  Sometimes it won't
> happen straight away, but will fail later.
> 
> Running /etc/profile as part of the startup script, and also calling
> enlightenment through a wrapper script that first calls /etc/profile
> seems to fix it, mostly.  I still get keyboard killed once in a
> while (happened once yesterday after a fresh boot).
> 
> A related symptom (which is what prompted me to sprinkle /etc/profile)
> is that xawtv4 won't start up properly, it has trouble talking to the
> TV card, but other TV software (kdetv for instance) had no problem. 
> Obviously this happens when I can login.  Using xdm, kdm, gdm, and wdm
> doesn't display any of these problems.
> 
> Wrapper scripts, and entranced writing to /var/run/entranced.pid itself
> caused other problems when I try to do the LSB standard startup script
> thing, which is the best way to integrate e17 into SuSE (9.3
> Professional).  Each of these problems will invoke the locked out
> keyboard problem if I try to work around them.  The current working
> version has enlightenment spew debugging info all over my boot console
> (redirecting it to /dev/null invokes keyboard lockout), and needs an
> explicit 'killall -TERM entranced' and removal of the pid file in the
> startup script for the stop action.  I also pass -nodeamon to entranced,
> call it via a wrapper, and call enlightenment via a wrapper.  All the
> wrappers do is call /etc/profile first.
> 
> I really want to use entranced and enlightenment, which is why I went to
> all the trouble of trying to get it to work.  It is a lot of trouble,
> because it often works fine when run manually, but fails when boot
> starts it (booting SuSE takes a few minutes).  Having the keyboard
> locked out makes debugging very tricky, as all I can do is power down
> the box, reboot into single user mode, swap to gdm, and reboot again. 
> This is also why I haven't looked at the code yet. Yes, I could probably
> ssh into the box from a spare computer, but that's not possible at the
> moment.
> 
> So, it's mostly working now, with only the odd time when I need to just
> power cycle my computer.  But I would rather not have enlightenment spew
> info all over my boot console, and I would rather not have to explicitly
> kill entranced and remove it's pid file.  For obvious reasons, I can't
> provide any gdb output, and any attempt to work around the various
> remaining problems invokes the keyboard lockout bug.  Entranced is
> brittle and fussy, it's probably some sort of uninitialized memory or
> environment problem.
> 
> Hope something in here gives some sort of clue.
> 
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