On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 14:54:21 +0200 Andreas Volz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> babbled:

> Hello,
> 
> > Enlightenment CVS committal
> > 
> > Author  : raster
> > Project : e17
> > Module  : apps/e
> > 
> > Dir     : e17/apps/e/src/modules/wizard
> > ...
> > + *    (current e defaults, windows-style or mac-style?).
> > + * o  ask for what default wallpaper to use.
> > + * o  ask if the user wants gnome or kde support
> > + *    (for gnome run gnome-settings-daemon, unknown for kde).
> 
> I run E17, but use many Gnome and Gtk applications. So I'm still
> searching for the best Gnome compatibility. Here are my experiences:

same.

> o Use a .gtkrc-2.0:
> 
> + Seems to be the easiest way to get Gtk support.
> + Easy to change with editor or various tools.
> - All the nice Gnome tools for menu settings size settings and other
> stuff doesn't work.
> 
> 0 Use gnome-settings-daemon:
> + Full Gnome support
> + Easy to use
> + All Gnome preference dialogs like fonts, menus, themes,... work.
> + Nice tools like gnome-keyring-manager are started
> - The gnome-settings-daemon seems to grab some key bindings (e.g. volume
> control on multimedia keyboards).
> - The Gnome screensaver and password dialog doesn't work good in a E17
> environment (sure it could be deactivated).
> 
> 0 Use xfce4-settings manager
> + Works similar to the gnome-settings-daemon
> + Like with gnome-settings-daemon a set of tools to configure look&feel
> - same cons as with gnome-settings-daemon
> 
> I'm not happy with any of the solutions. How do you use E17 and
> Gnome/Gtk app together?

well my plan was just to run gnome-settings-daemon, and allow access to the
gnome config utils from your .desktop files (and menus) under some special
gnome settings menu. ideally i'd also like to disable any gnome settings
(screensaver/lock, keybinding snarfing etc.) that conflict, but just running
gnome-settings-daemon and giving access to the gnome conf tools is a good first
step. it would be nice to have our own tool basically mimic all the things
gnome-settings-daemon does that gtk/gnome apps need - but i'd need to dig into
exactly all the things it does.

> I thought about forking gnome-settings-daemon. Then I could use all
> good things from it and remove all stuff that I don't like/need in E17.
> In combination with smart Gnome settings this should work the best.

also be the most work - maybe a longer term plan would be that, but the short
term just run gnome-settings-daemon?

> regards
> Andreas
> 
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