* Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> [2011-02-07 08:46:44 +0900]:
I like his suggestion of the transparent window with just a tail or multitail running within. I just didn't think of doing it that way. Simple and root-tail-less. And ... really ... who is ever going to use anything else that E17 once (s)he used it? Nobody! :) I like what I get with E17 a lot. I not even have any other desktop installed. E17 is the only thing I have. Thanks anyone, Marc > On Sun, 06 Feb 2011 23:52:57 +0800 P Purkayastha <ppu...@gmail.com> said: > > what he said. everything arguing over root is legacy. it is not something de's > WANT to support. i made the move years ago with e17. you cant catch such > rendering as rendering to root is destructive and produces just final output. > the way drawing works in things like x11, or windows and other os's is > destructive. you can't catch things and manage/layer them. the way this is > dome > is either via creating actual windows that then have transparency of their own > - root-wail doesnt do this. conky does. OR the system provides a much higher > level way of placing content there that runs within the context of whatever is > managing the desktop - like widgets (html/javascript things) or in e17's case > - > modules. the fact is that root-tail is "rude" in that it just scribbles over a > window it doesnt own, and its a hack that has long since seen its time end. if > you want to use such tools you can go back in time and use fvwm or twm and use > all the tools of that era, but everyone else has moved on. :) > > > On 02/06/2011 11:25 PM, Marc Koschewski wrote: > > > the root-tail command I posted works. However, it seems to writ > > > text-over-text - as if scrolling the text is turned off. So, no _real_ > > > solution. > > > > > > I told you that the result could be ugly. I had used something like your > > command in around 2005 with e17. I couldn't recall why I abandoned it :) > > > > > > > Carsten, is there a way to have legacy apps such as root-tatil work in > > > E17? > > > Could E17 catch alternations to the X root-window and display them in a > > > way > > > that makes E17 happy? Sad to see these apps fail as they run in any > > > desktop > > > one knows... > > > > > > Marc > > > > > > If I am not wrong, most DE's are moving towards E17-like root window. > > KDE already has since KDE4, gnome-3 will also be like that, not sure > > about xfce (haven't used it in over 5yrs). I suspect programs like > > root-tail which draw on the X root window will be quite non-functional > > in most major DE's in another year or so. > > > > As for your solution, conky is definitely the way to go. Or, if you > > don't want conky, just run tail -f in a terminal,- make it transparent > > (either fake or true), sticky, and "Pin to desktop". You will lose right > > click on desktop functionality over the area the terminal is being drawn. > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources > > and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's > > connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these > > rules translate into the virtual world? > > http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb > > _______________________________________________ > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > -- Marc Koschewski ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The modern datacenter depends on network connectivity to access resources and provide services. The best practices for maximizing a physical server's connectivity to a physical network are well understood - see how these rules translate into the virtual world? http://p.sf.net/sfu/oracle-sfdevnlfb _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
