and another one of his golden nuggets. Begin chunk 'o stuff:
Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 15:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> To: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop flipping You know something, for someone claiming to be the sole owner of a software package already on the fringes of crossing the threshold from exotic to becoming bizarre in the tininess of its user community, you put and awful lot of effort into ticking of the few users left with your self-righteousnesses and stubborn insistence that you are right and everybody else is wrong. I now understand why Enlightenment has such a small following. With folks like you ru(i)nning this mailing list, its a miracle all and of itself that there is still anybody left putting up with nonsense. Starting a flame war over some version numbering, what insanity ! My advise to you, take a cold shower before you jump on that bandwagon again :-( --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop flipping > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 8:15 AM > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 07:42:44 -0800 > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > said: > > > Listen Mr. I DON'T CARE (nothing aggressive here) if > you call yourself the > > emperor of China. I for one highly doubt that you got > any valid copyright > > i have to laugh at this. you know i started enlightenment > in 1996? first > release - dr-0.1 in 1997? you are now actually being most > insulting by saying > that i actually haven't got anything to do with the project > i founded and whose > code i have written the vast majority for. perhaps you > should do a little bit > of study... just for your information - check the about > dialog.. or AUTHORS > file... you'll see me listed as the FIRST person there: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/AUTHORS > > or for that matter almost all of the libraries behind it: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/ecore/AUTHORS > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/edje/AUTHORS > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/eet/AUTHORS > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/embryo/AUTHORS > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/evas/AUTHORS > ... i can go on. > > > claim on enlightenment. If you say you do, then I > highly advise you to sue > > those other sites I mentioned (and the countless other > ones who claim they've > > got an E17 distro for download). > > why would i do that? it's distributed under a license that > allows them to do > this. they have not violated any legally binding agreement. > i suggest you read > the COPYING file distributed with enlightenment, or to make > your life a little > easier: > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/COPYING > > > Because by law a copyright not being enforced if > violated becomes void. > > actually that's entirely incorrect. that is trademark law, > not copyright law. > > > You can make any claim you won't about "those other > distros" or your own > > important role in Enlightenment. Fact is that E17 is > out there, ready for > > download and I've never stumbled upon your name in > connection with any E > > http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=news/show&l=en&news_id=28 > > my god.. that's my name... having written the main and > latest news item on > enlightenment.org's website. > > > distro I had running on my system before (and > specially in OpenSUSE they tend > > i dont work on ANY distro (i have worked on debian and > worked for redhat > before), but i work on - i founded enlightenment. should i > bring this up on > the public mailing list and have the entire list verify > this in addition the > application's about dialog right in front of you, the > upstream source code > trees etc. etc.? > > > to list the names of "single owners" of SW distros in > the comment section). > > please. just please, bring up the about dialog for your > install of E. be it > e16, e17 or go back in time all the way to E 0.1 if you > wish to hunt down such > source. of course if you don't want to - then i can't make > you, but you do > continue to look entirely silly saying what you do. in > fact... i dare you. mail > the enlightenment users or devel list... and just ask. or > for that matter.. > just make your bold claim that i have nothing to do with > E... > > > So as far as I am concerned you're just someone > looking to start a flame war > > with me, over something that wasn't even an issue in > my posts. > > no - what i said is that you claim there is an E17... your > quote: > > > > > > > > Yet another setting I don't > know how to "rescue" over > > > > > > from E16.999 to E17. > > and i said: > > > > > > > what e17? news to me. e is still > at 0.16.999.XXX > > how is that a flame war? you asked for the impossible. you > are asking how to > "rescue" settings from 0.16.999 to E17 when E17 doesnt even > EXIST. it's still > 0.16.999.XXX > > > If I have to make a choice between countless web sites > with E17 ready for > > download and your claims, well then I know where I > have to put my bets down. > > > > And now I truly, really have more important things to > do in life. > > > > So have a nice day (you see, nothing aggressive > here)! > > neither in my emails. so... right now i'd dearly liek you > to actuallly check > the facts - just LOOK at the sourcecode. just LOOK at the > about dialog. it HAS > the enlightenment version inside it. left click on the > desktop and in the menu: > enlightenment->about - it's that simple. it's 0.16.xxxx > (unless whoever > distributed it to you patched it to be a version that was > never released). and > once you take a look and realize you were wrong - i'd > dearly love an apology. > you basically just told jrr tolkein he didn't write lord of > the rings and has no > place in telling you anything about it because the local > newspaper said > something different. that's the equivalent. it's rather > insulting to be told > that when the other party involved hasnt even done any > semmblance of fact > checking. > > > --- On Wed, 3/9/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > wrote: > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable Desktop > flipping > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > Date: Wednesday, March 9, 2011, 6:56 AM > > > On Wed, 9 Mar 2011 06:20:09 -0800 > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > said: > > > > > > i'm cool.... and i'm the founder of this project, > lead > > > developer and well, i'm > > > the one who calls the calls "release". i don't > care what > > > those sites say - > > > enlightenment.org has NO download for or > announcement for > > > it's release because > > > it never WAS released. it's still being worked on > in our > > > SVN repository. if you > > > think it's released then you are thinking > incorrectly. it's > > > the same thing > > > as thinking the world if flat just because a > bunch of > > > people say it is "out > > > there on the internet". the source - where e17 > comes from > > > is telling you that > > > it is STILL at 0.16.999. > > > > > > http://trac.enlightenment.org/e/browser/trunk/e/configure.ac > > > > > > there is our source. the configure.ac - see the > top. 0 16 > > > and 999 - major, > > > minor and micro version. last change to that > file... 12 > > > days ago. > > > > > > http://download.enlightenment.org/releases/ > > > > > > no release of enlightenment. note the releases > dir is named > > > just that. > > > releases. we have a SNAPSHOTS dir: > > > > > > http://download.enlightenment.org/snapshots/2010-12-03/ > > > > > > that is the last snapshot of enlightenment from > svn > > > development - but not a > > > release of e17. note the version is > 0.16.9999.xxxxx. > > > > > > btw. there is nothing aggressive about the tone > of my > > > emails. they are plain > > > simple and factual. they aren't using fluffy > language. do i > > > have to put a > > > smiley on every line just to NOT be aggressive? > please, > > > re-read the emails > > > and actually check the source before quoting > random > > > websites. > > > > > > > How about you cool it and check out first > what's > > > really happening "out there"? > > > > > > > > http://e17-stuff.org/ > > > > http://www.golem.de/1011/79506.html > > > > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/E17 > > > > Quote: > > > > "E17 is the development release 17 (DR17) of > the > > > Enlightenment Desktop > > > > Environment. It comprises both the > Enlightenment > > > window manager and > > > > Enlightenment Foundation Libraries (EFL), > which > > > provide additional desktop > > > > environment features such as a toolkit, > object canvas, > > > and abstracted > > > > objects. E17 has been under development > since 2005, > > > but in February 2011 the > > > > core EFLs saw their first stable 1.0 > release." > > > :Endquote > > > > > > > > I'm really not sure what YOU are talking > about and > > > whom YOU are talking for, > > > > as plenty of other folks in the Internet > seem to know > > > that E17 is out there > > > > and does exist as an installable beta > release. > > > > > > > > I really wish you'd change the aggressive > tone of your > > > e-mails or stop > > > > sending me mails altogether. > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 3/5/11, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to disable > Desktop > > > flipping > > > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > Date: Saturday, March 5, 2011, 12:30 > AM > > > > > On Fri, 4 Mar 2011 16:17:51 -0800 > > > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > well... WE (enlightenent.org) have NOT > released e > > > 0.17 - so > > > > > whatever suse have > > > > > released has nothing to do with us. we > are still > > > > > 0.16.999.XXXXX. > > > > > > > > > > > Nope, E17 is now available as a > beta > > > download (at > > > > > least for OpenSuse 11.3 on > > > > > > onwards). > > > > > > > > > > > > Its the real deal and definetely > NOT > > > 16.999.xxx > > > > > anymore! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Sat, 2/26/11, Carsten > Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [e-users] How to > disable > > > Desktop > > > > > flipping > > > > > > > To: "Harry" <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > Cc: enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, February 26, > 2011, 2:37 > > > AM > > > > > > > On Fri, 25 Feb 2011 02:49:53 > -0800 > > > > > > > (PST) Harry <isigo...@yahoo.com> > > > > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello World, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yet another setting I > don't know > > > how to > > > > > "rescue" over > > > > > > > from E16.999 to E17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what e17? news to me. e is > still at > > > 0.16.999.XXX > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I want to disable the > Desktop > > > flipping, that > > > > > happens > > > > > > > every time the cursor > > > > > > > > reaches the edge of the > screen. > > > That truly > > > > > annoys me, > > > > > > > but I don't know how to > > > > > > > > stop that in E17. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any help appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > D.D. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > Free Software Download: > Index, > > > Search & > > > > > Analyze > > > > > > > Logs and other IT data in > > > > > > > > Real-Time with Splunk. > Collect, > > > index and > > > > > harness all > > > > > > > the fast moving IT data > > > > > > > > generated by your > applications, > > > servers and > > > > > devices > > > > > > > whether physical, virtual > > > > > > > > or in the cloud. > Deliver > > > compliance at lower > > > > > cost and > > > > > > > gain new business > > > > > > > > insights. http://p.sf.net/sfu/splunk-dev2dev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > enlightenment-users > mailing list > > > > > > > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo > sum - "I > > > code, > > > > > therefore I am" > > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten > Haitzler) > > > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I > code, > > > therefore I am" > > > > > -------------- > > > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) > ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, > therefore I am" > > > -------------- > > > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" > -------------- > The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com > > -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Colocation vs. Managed Hosting A question and answer guide to determining the best fit for your organization - today and in the future. http://p.sf.net/sfu/internap-sfd2d _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
