On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 9:16 PM, Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:07 PM, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
> <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Sun Mar 27 2011 11:25:55 AM CDT, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
>> > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:15 PM, Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > On Sun Mar 27 2011 10:41:25 AM CDT, hannes.janet...@gmail.com
>> >> > <hannes.janet...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > > On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Jeff Hoogland
>> >> > > <jeffhoogl...@linux.com> wrote:
>> >> > > > Is there a way to have Window Management use both "Smart
>> >> > > > Expansion" and "Fill Available Space"? I really like the latter
>> >> > > > setting, but when it is toggle windows always open over lapping
>> >> > > > my
>> >> > > > shelves and in general act fairly "dumb".
>> >> > > >
>> >> > > And what is the problem with just using 'smart expansion' then?
>> >> > >
>> >> > It allows windows over lap shelves that are set to "don't allow
>> >> > windows to over lap"
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Isn't it the other way round? smart expansion should maximize windows
>> >> so that they do not overlap shelves that do not allow overlapping.
>> >> what is it that you really want? does smart expansion not fill the
>> >> space that you want it to?
>> >>
>> > It fills open space, but it seems to ignore shelves when first opened.
>> > For
>>
>> What is 'it'? what is the effect that makes you think that shelves are
>> ignored?
>>
>> > instance on smart expansion opening firefox fills the screen minus the
>> > shelf. On fill space, firefox opens filling the whole screen even my
>> > shelves.
>>
>> That is how these maximize methods are supposed to work. what would be
>> better?
>>
> What I am looking for that is not currently happening -
>
> Shelves that are suppose to not let windows over lap them should never have
> windows over lap then. Regardless of if the window state is set to "smart
> expansion" or "fill available space".
>
Ok, I guess one part is a problem with initial placement of windows
that are larger than the available space without overlapping
shelves(useful geometry)  and the other is a bug in fill policy that
it does not take non-overlap shelves into account. For the first one
could resize initial window to be within 'useful geometry' though not
sure what side effects this might have. If you keep firefox smaller
than useful geometry it shouldnt overlap with shelves when opening it
or does it?


> Sorry, should have been more clear on what I was looking for.
>
> ~Jeff
>
>> >
>> > ~Jeff
>> >> > ~Jeff
>> >> >
>> >> > > > Regards,
>> >> > > > ~Jeff
>> >> > > >
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