Connman seriously lacks the interface for dealing with 3g modems that
network manager provides - in fact nothing else I've used comes close (work
wifi+wired+wired). Same can be said for dropbox, it does a good job.

I'd just like to throw it out there that I never said the systray protocol
was good. This is however besides the point because the systray is very much
necessary for *many* things to function. E is a great desktop, but it needs
to play nice with normal Linux applications and having a functioning systray
is needed for this. If Gnome, KDE, LXDE, and even Unity can manage to piece
together a functional one there is no reason the same can't be done with
Enlightenment (the best desktop around).

I guess I'll be happy it works at all then for the time being and add it to
the list of things my team and I are going to work on this summer.

Cheers,
~Jeff Hoogland

On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com>wrote:

> On Fri, 08 Apr 2011 07:35:06 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@gmail.com>
> said:
>
> no there isnt one. my point is that the systray protocol is just bad. it's
> complex and different apps handle it differently with differing levels of
> correctness. the fact that e restarts at all totally screws some apps. you
> will
> never have it working right. don't use apps that insist on systray stuff.
> you
> can avoid networkmanager - use connman. i am sure you can find an
> alternative
> to dropbox stuff.
>
> > Is there a different e module that shows tray icons then? It is needed to
> > show things like dropbox and nm-applet
> >
> > ~Jeff
> >
> > On Fri Apr   8 2011 07:23:18 AM CDT, Carsten Haitzler <
> ras...@rasterman.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 8 Apr 2011 06:39:32 -0500 Jeff Hoogland <jeffhoogl...@linux.com
> >
> > > said:
> > >
> > > don't use systray. it has problems... just in general as a
> > > standard/protocol. avoid like the plague.
> > >
> > > > Anyone else having systray not letting you access the applications
> > > > running in it while it is on your desktop?
> > > >
> > > > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/23755008/screenshot.jpg
> > > >
> > > > ~Jeff Hoogland
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