On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 23:38:37 -0300 Wido <wido...@gmail.com> said: > Hummmm, I guess you have a very good point. I didn't knew E cursors where so > complex, I though they were just 'imitating' X behaviour. > > Still, I would do just bad copies as a X theme. X/GTK/QT apps would use them > as they currently do. I just won't hurt that much to the eyes moving from a E > cursor theme to an X theme.
and at that point... david is right.. it's part and parcel of work to do a "matching gtk/qt theme" and is not part of polishig up the e17 theme... :) > They won't be as cool and functional as in E, but they it won't look like you > have 2 different sets of themes which behave randomly. Did I mention that > having 2 differen't themes *really* annoys me? :D you have that right now... gtk and qt apps.. and fltk.. and every "web app" (which all do their own custom css/look etc.) all look different. that's life. > I will make an example, so you guys don't think I'm just whinning (ok, maybe > I am =D ). I use google chrome (not chromium, but chrome). Inside the > browser, I get all X cursors, so I get ugly arrow, ugly hand-on-click, ugly > type-writter, ugly resizes. I would rather have bad E cursors copies (even if > they are just animated gif) that ugly X cursors :D and thats yet another.. where crhomium uses gtk for some specific elements, but in general re-implements al of its own widgest and drawing anyway (often with html). the cursor is just the few things that html has yet to take over and customize. i imaginein html6 they may allow css to specify gif/png/dom elements for cursors and have js able to animate them et. then... then you're back to this complaint again. out of scrope for "e17 theme polish" as above. :) > On Saturday February 2 2013 23:00:38 David Seikel escribió: > > On Sat, 2 Feb 2013 22:19:34 -0300 Wido <wido...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I know that E mouse works differently. Maybe I didn't explained > > > properly. > > > > > > What I ment is it would be possible to allow E (somehow, with lot of > > > black magic) replicate it's cursors to X cursors. As in create gifs > > > or png or whatever X use for current E theme, and move that into an > > > X theme. > > > > It would not be a replication, it would be a pale imitation. The point > > raster was making is that E mouse pointers are active scripted objects, > > which is very far away from being a simple set of looped static > > images. Sure you could grab a static image of on E cursor at some > > point during it's scripted running, but at what points do you do this > > grabbing? Each scripted E cursor object is different, and can be > > entirely arbitrary, making it almost impossible to automatically pick > > suitable points that are useful to make a series of image grabs. > > > > So the results are likely to be really crap, and just not worth the > > effort of creating that black magic. Much better results could be done > > by the theme author picking those points carefully and making their own > > matching X cursor theme. Such theme authors might be making matching > > GTK / QT / whatever themes as well, but I would guess that most don't. > > > > > I know, it sounds horrible and I'm not suggesting to do that, is just > > > a quick 'n dirt hack to explain what I would like E to do =) > > > > > > On Saturday February 2 2013 02:56:42 Carsten Haitzler escribió: > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 18:00:09 +0000 Stefano <pietran...@gmail.com> > > > > said: > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 1 Feb 2013 14:28:53 -0300, you wrote: > > > > > >Hummm, the only thing that REALLY bothers me is not having an X > > > > > >paired cursor theme. That, and the fact that some GTK/QT apps > > > > > >change the E cursor to X cursor...that REALLY annoys me. > > > > > > > > > > > >Would it be possible to export current E mouse theme to ALSO be > > > > > >X mouse theme? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > +1 > > > > > > > > > > same for me. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > this is exceedingly hd, because x cursor themems are far more > > > > primitvie. e17 literallyhas an edje object for the cursor and emits > > > > information to it via signals.. xcursors are static images or a > > > > simple set of N images that loop. that's all tey can do. > > > > > > > Wido > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. > Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics > Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: > http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- The Rasterman (Carsten Haitzler) ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Everyone hates slow websites. So do we. Make your web apps faster with AppDynamics Download AppDynamics Lite for free today: http://p.sf.net/sfu/appdyn_d2d_jan _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
