On Sun, 26 Nov 2017 19:41:46 +0000 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said:
> On 11/26/2017 03:29 AM, Carsten Haitzler wrote: > > On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 22:52:13 +0000 Peter Flynn <pe...@silmaril.ie> said: > > > >> I have been using Hiri recently for my MS-Exchange email, a really nice > >> interface (https://www.hiri.com/) > >> > >> If I right-click on the executing application window title bar I can > >> pick hiri » Add to IBar » default (as with any app)...but it doesn't add > > > > you know you can also DND it into ibar to place it exactly where you like? > > that's what i do... :) > > But drag and drop *what*? I tried with the title bar but that very the icon in the titlebar (top-left corner). > obviously doesn't work. The pop-out menu items (from right-clcik on the > title bar) don't drag. The block which appears in the dock (sorry, I > don't know the right terminology for this) while the program is > executing is also not draggable. > > What do I drag and drop? > > > this should work if a .desktop file was installed for the app > > No, definitely not. Installation is by detarring into /opt. You run it > with /opt/hiri/hiri.sh Then e is going to have problems running it, matching a desktop file to it etc. unless you manually do the work. > > AND enlightenment > > matches up the window to the app desktop file instance. this tends to work > > correctly for pretty much everything... except for me for steam apps/games. > > I could probably edit up a .desktop file if there is a single place in > Bodhi to put it. Most distributions are bedevilled by there being a > dozen possible places and you have to know a priori which is the right one. There are a lot of places. This isn't the distro's fault. Ti's both the standard itself and history. But if you are making one for yourself: ~/.local/share/applications/ If it's for all users to share on the system then: /usr/share/applications/ > > i'm going to go into steam a bit as this is something i have ready access > > to, and i don't know what hiri sets/does or puts in its desktop file, but i > > do know that "cross platform apps" often do things poorly on linux (x11) > > and it leads to little nasties like "can't find desktop file" or "find > > wrong one" or something and that may lead to not being able to add to ibar > > directly via menu or dnd. > > Yep. This is a classical instance. I can forgive them: it's new and > under dev (although very stable)... > > ...BUT on my other systems (Xubuntu running E), Hiri *does* appear in > the list of apps available from IBar » Contents, whereas in Bodhi it > doesn't. Maybe it installs a desktop file somewhere. You'll have to find it. I have no idea what it contains. > I'm afraid I have no idea what Steam is. I know it's something to do > with games, but I haven't used computers for games since Advent was a > console game :-) > > > ... you get the idea. > > Nope, 'fraid not. > > >> I'm now running Bodhi instead of Xubuntu, and snap appears to be > > > > so you're not running enlightenment then? > > No idea, it doesn't say. > > > running moshka > > Yes. > > > bodhi's fork of our > > release from 2012 (5 years old)? so 5 years worth of bug fixes, improvements > > etc. wouldn't count? in which case... I'm not sure we'll be on the same > > page. > > It didn't say. It looked like E and quacked like E :-) > > > or did you nuke moshka and install E 0.22 etc.? > > Only just barely coaxed Bodhi into installing on this laptop, so I want > to go VERY slowly otherwise it's likely to fail. I might even trash > Bodhi and try Mint (the only other distro which fired up without hanging). > > From what you say I should definitely trash Moshka. Why on earth are > they still using it I wonder. They made that choice to never upgrade from E 0.17 and then start doing their own work on it (i.e. fork). But 5 years or so of changes in E vs Moshka is not something I'd really want to dig into. Desktop files work well for me. They work reliably as I expect they should, unless of course the apps are problematic (like the above examples) and then I know why and sometimes there just is no fix at all. :/ > > .desktop files is how it works. > > Amen. > > ///Peter > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most > engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot > _______________________________________________ > enlightenment-users mailing list > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users -- ------------- Codito, ergo sum - "I code, therefore I am" -------------- Carsten Haitzler - ras...@rasterman.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Check out the vibrant tech community on one of the world's most engaging tech sites, Slashdot.org! http://sdm.link/slashdot _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
