El vie, 12-07-2019 a las 11:26 +0100, Carsten Haitzler escribió:
> On Thu, 04 Jul 2019 14:18:33 +0200 aguador <waterbeare...@gmx.com>
> said:
>
> > I have mixed results with appindicators in the E systray (e21, e22)
> > in
> > Mageia with X-windows. The following applications (from the distro
> > respository) work as expected:
> >
> > * Copyq
> > * Mageia updates
> > * Mageia network
>
> not on mageia, so i only can try the top one and it does work - yes.
> steam also
> works for me.
>
> > And these work, but a triangle with exclamation point in the center
> > appears in the systray rather than their icon:
> >
> > * Pidgin ("Ubuntu indicator" plugin - both from the Mageia repo)
> > * Tomboy-ng (installed using the github rpm)
>
> well i tried gnote as that seems to be the fork. tomboy is gone from
> arch and
> ubuntu it seems. at least the packaged versions of these get me
> nothing at all
> in the appindicator. i don't know if they are just missing the
> feature here or
> what 0- i looked for options. i see none to explicitly enable
> appindicator or
> not
gnote and original tomboy probably were likely never set up for
appindicator.
>
> > In addition, Vivaldi (installed using the Vivaldi rpm), sometimes
> > (for
> > available updates?) shows as a triangle which shows only the name
> > of
> > the program when clicked.
>
> don't have that. distro specific?
Not at all (not even in the Mageia repos!), it is from one of the
founders of Opera who saw his baby going astray and launched another
project. There is a lot to like about it, and there are pkgbuilds in
the AUR for stable https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/vivaldi/ - but
built from the rpm package) and nightly builds (also from rpm). It is
not yet my primary browser, but it might yet convince me . . . .
Different with lots of tools, stable (with an occasional ripple caused
by updates in the Chromium engine), better privacy than anything other
than FF or FF-based browsers.
>
> > The first three have in common being aimed at KDE, while Pidgin and
> > Tomboy-ng are Gnome applications, although the Pidgin plugin was
> > developed for Unity. The Tomboy-ng developer has tested indicator
> > in
> > Mageia's KDE desktop where it *does* show the icon properly.
>
> tomboy-ng seems a bit out there for me to just throw it up and see
> (the github
> has *.pas files - i finally figured out it uses pascal ... well wow.
> now that's
> niche!). it doesn't obviously tell you how to compile or install it
> in the
> readme or where i can immediately find in normal places so... it's
> going to go
> into the "can't run that stuff" bucket for me :)
>
The developer is using fpc with Lazarus to cross compile for linux, win
and mac - a neat way around the mono dependency that made tomboy such a
beast. The only other program I know that uses that combo is Doublecmd
(eg,
https://aur.archlinux.org/cgit/aur.git/tree/PKGBUILD?h=doublecmd-gtk2-svn
), my go-to file manager.
I see that someone built a version of tomboy-ng in the AUR, now out of
date, from a deb package, nothing from src. Even the rpm in git is
built from the deb package.
> > One other curiosity is that Tomboy-ng writes the icon to
> > /tmp/appindicators. None of the others do.
> >
> > Any ideas as to what is going on here, how to diagnose it, and/or
> > if it
> > has a fix?
>
> well systray module has src and it has dbus services that listen for
> stuff from
> apps. putting in printf's to see if they say anything at all to it
> and what
> they say... :)
>
OK, I'll give it a try. Since the functionality is there it is not that
big a deal. It just seems as if icons are being placed somewhere E does
not look. I suspect that there is some lack of standardization here as
Copyq (and Steam) get it right. It is suspicious that Gnome- or gtk-
centric apps have the problem -- and Gnome developers do not like
appindicators.
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