Resending so it posts to the user list. Also wanted to add one more question. If gadgets can be added to the desktop directly, what happens differently with the shelf? It is added settings, like position, reserved space so apps can't cover, etc? Cheers, BrianA ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 11:34:32 -0600 Brian <bvamund...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 28 Dec 2019 16:30:44 +0000 > Carsten Haitzler <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 09:23:52 -0600 Brian <bvamund...@yahoo.com> > > said: > > > Sorry, I've reloaded "E" and can now use proper terms. > > > Is there a reason the Pager doesn't show the windows open for both > > > screens on the ibar? > > > > Because the pager displays the virtual desktops for a given screen. > > each screen has its own virtual desktop set. think of it as 2 parent > > directories with N child dirs (one per desktop) and windows inside > > these. that's why - it's structured this way in e. > > > > There isn't a pager on the ibar. there is a shelf. shelves can > > contain many gadgets. pager is one. ibar is another gadget... ibar > > itself is concerned with launching apps. it happens to be able to > > list (on mouseover of an icon) any windows associated with that > > desktop file that ibar is showing to launch things. it has no > > filtering to filter this list down in any way. same for the extra > > icons it adds for windows as they appear - if they match a desktop > > file somewhere it adds them on the right to indicate that app was > > launched. again - no filtering per desktop or screen. > > Sorry for my not using the proper terms again based on logic structure > (parent/child is a great example). I now understand that shelves are > screen specific and owned by that screen. That modules need to be > loaded before a gadget will function and gadgets are added to shelves > or desktops. It seems that once a gadget is added to a shelf or > desktop it can't be moved to another screen area? > > Now help me understand something. Since the ibar is able to > run a script for the launchers, which monitors the apps (regardless > of which virtual desktop and screen) and then either add the app > to the ibar, ibox, or display a small blue dot to the lower right > corner for the launched app (and a miniature icon of the apps screen, > if the mouse hoovers over the app launcher), why can't that same > script logic be deployed for the Pager to show both screens and > miniature icons of the apps on each virtual desktop and screen? > For example when I use the mouse wheel to show running apps it will > show from both screens and all virtual desktops. > > Alternatively is there a way that pager of screen 0 can be added to > the screen 1? I tried to add the pager to the desktop and move it > from 0 to 1. After moving to screen 1 it takes on the screen one > virtual desktops and drops the screen 0 desktops. What I'm trying to > achieve is being able to see what apps maybe running on each virtual > desktop and screen in a thumbnail. I realize that the middle mouse > wheel click on any desktop will show me ALL running apps and whether > they are open or minimized (presence of x) but I like the visual > glance over having to use the mouse wheel. > > > > > > Is it because the ibar is also screen specific? For example I > > > prefer the ibar on the right screen and the default ibar starts on > > > the left, so I setup a Default #2 on the right screen and then > > > delete the Default #1 ibar. > > > > ibar lives in the shelf... i think we need to get our names right > > otherwise i don't know what you're talking about... :) shelves ARE > > screen specific. gadgets in a shelf can find out what screen they > > are on (and from that find out what virtual desktops exist for that > > screen and which is currently visible etc.). > > Thanks I get it now, again sorry for using wrong terms. Thus the > reason I have to build a separate shelf for the right screen and > eliminate the left screen shelf for my preference of where I launch > and see app states. > > > > > > Or have I missed something during initial setup that will allow > > > the system to treat both screens as a single unit, thus allowing > > > the Pager will display app windows of both screens? > > > > e does not treat screens as a single unit. it expressly is designed > > to treat each screen separately. that is why it can switch virtual > > desktops on a screen by screen basis. this is reflected in core data > > structures. for almost everyone this is logical as each screen is a > > separate physical display unit and thus a physical entity etc. etc. > > and thus each having its own state etc. is what makes sense. :) > > > > Cheers and Happy New Year. > > > Pax tecum, absit iniuria; > > > Brian Amundsen, 763-786-5699 > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > > On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 10:27:04 +0000 > > > Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman) <ras...@rasterman.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2019 09:52:59 -0600 Brian via enlightenment-users > > > > <enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net> said: > > > > > > > > > Is there any chance that Enlightenment will ever go back to > > > > > supporting two screens with the ibar reflecting the programs > > > > > open on both screens? It's one of the reasons I'm not using > > > > > "E". I like to see what is open on all screens and all virtual > > > > > desktops, something that FVWM does with ease. Iif "E" was > > > > > able to do that one function I'd consider switching. > > > > > > > > Ibar shows everything that is open on all screens and all > > > > desktops... that is the only option it has (and has ever had). > > > > It doesn't have an option to limit what it shows to only what > > > > is on the same screen as ibar (or on the current desktop on that > > > > screen). > > > > > > > > > Merry Christmas > > > > > Brian Amundsen > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > enlightenment-users mailing list > > > > > enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net > > > > > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ enlightenment-users mailing list enlightenment-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/enlightenment-users
