I've updated the list settings to

Munge From -- applies the from_is_list Munge From transformation to these
messages.

for the action to take when anyone posts to the list from a domain with a
DMARC Reject/Quarantine Policy.

Hopefully this solves the problem without affecting too many other people.

Mike Kaply

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 10:11 PM Paul Kosinski <mozi...@iment.com> wrote:

> Yes, I know that SPF, DKIM and DMARC can cause problems with mailing
> lists, but people have been working on it for years. I just thought that
> Mozilla was sophisticated enough to have implemented a workaround.
>
> The ISC BIND users mailing list, for example, uses Mailman and in their
> configuration the DMARC handler, modifies the "From:" address and adds
> "Reply-To:" like so:
>
>   Paul Kosinski via bind-users <bind-us...@lists.isc.org>
>   Reply-to: Paul Kosinski <b...@iment.com>
>
> The ClamAV users mailing list does something similar, also changing
> "From:", adding "Reply-to:", but also adding a "Cc:" like so:
>
>   From: Paul Kosinski via clamav-users <clamav-us...@lists.clamav.net>
>   Reply-To: ClamAV users ML <clamav-us...@lists.clamav.net>
>   Cc: Paul Kosinski <clamav-us...@iment.com>
>
> Topicbox also uses the "From:" "via" workaround. It's a shame that
> Mozilla doesn't do something to mitigate its DMARC problem.
>
> P.S. Since DMARC info is supplied by the DNS server and applies to the
> whole domain, I don't see offhand what to do that would accommodate
> Mozilla's rather lame mailing list mechanism.
>
>
>
> On Sun, 14 Jul 2019 16:45:59 -0500
> Don Wright <wm...@wricomp.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul Kosinski wrote:
> > >Here's another example of a DMARC "failure" when mail (from me) is
> > >passed on to an ESR subscriber.
> >
> >
> > DMARC is fundamentally broken[1] with regard to mailing lists as it
> > only checks the From: and not the Sender: field. Mitigating
> > DMARC-induced problems is a frequent topic on the mailman-users
> > support mailing list.[2]
> >
> >
> > [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DMARC#Mailing_lists
> > [2] https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/mailman-users
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