on 1/24/05 6:52 PM, Jud Spencer at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Technically, all Tiger development info is under NDA so there isn't much > that can be said.... > > Given all of the publically mentioned information, there is no way to map > database-like implementations (even mbox's) into the way that Spotlight was > designed. > > Read the following article: > > http://paulfrankenstein.org/archives/2004/08/15_one_who_rides_a_tiger_will_f > ind_it_hard_to_dismount.html > > "One of the interesting things about Spotlight is that it�s extremely > focused on searching and finding files. In fact, in order to take full > advantage of the new technology, the next version of Mail.app will change > the way it stores mail messages. > > At the moment, Mail.app saves email using mbox format: each folder is saved > as a file; individual messages are aggregated together inside each file. The > version of Mail.app that will ship with 10.4 changes that: now, each email > will be saved as a separate file. In other words, they�re letting the file > system be the database." > > So not even Mail.app will use mbox format. If this is true, then Apple must > be counting on the fact that the OS can handle hundreds of thousands, if not > millions of files. That is a definite departure from the way that we have > always been taught to treat the OS.
Thanks for the links, I will read up. I agree, moving to flat files is "iffy". I had a directory on OS X that had 50,000 images in it, forget trying to move those images as the drag and drop outline that is needed to be generated would never happen, crashes were frequent. That said, I was able to do whatever I needed in the terminal just fine, but working in the finder, hands off, don't even open the folder. I suspect they will do much like iPhoto, and make a big mess of it with sub folders. Heck, even Safari stores icons and cache files in folders to make the folders manageable. Entourage can totally pull this off, and well enough to make a lot of people happy. First, screw spotlight if Entourage can be made faster at searching, as it is now: Identity: Main Identity Folders: 71 Messages: 48,778 Data Folder Size: 317mb Searching body copy on that, which I do daily, takes minutes, it is pretty bad, if that can be made faster, I am happy. Since I don't think that will be sped up anytime soon, spotlight is encouraging. Entourage can take a group of messages, drag and drop to the finder, and you have individual files, I am sure spotlight can pick up on those just fine. The problem is how to automate this, and how do you synchronize this? I can even handle it being a little out of sync, so say, every quit of Entourage would write out new files to disk, delete others etc. I know it is a mess, but I think it can be done, and done well. There is a solution to be found here, not sure where, but I am sure the devs are trying their best. Advanced find in Entourage has gotten better, don't get me wrong, but it is still not fast enough, and it is not one of those cases where I am just wanting faster for the sake of it. I don't think anyone would give a hoot about Entourage and spotlight if searching could be faster. -- ------------------------------------------------------------- Scott Haneda Tel: 415.898.2602 <http://www.newgeo.com> Fax: 313.557.5052 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Novato, CA U.S.A. -- To unsubscribe: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> archives: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.letterrip.com/> old-archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/entourage-talk%40lists.boingo.com/>
