James,

 

I'm glad you went back with a laser. North Asheville has some whopper
spruce, too. How did your eastern red cedar hunt go?

 

Will F. Blozan

President, Eastern Native Tree Society

President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc.

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From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
Behalf Of James Parton
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 6:43 PM
To: ENTS
Subject: [ENTS] Norway Spruce

 


ENTS,

With Kouta's spruce trees in mind and the recent discussions on boreal
forests I set out yesterday and today to the best sites I know for Norway
Spruce. Biltmore has bigger ones but I can't get in for free there.
Yesterday I visited the VA Hospital in Oteen NC and today GE Lighting
Systems in East Flat Rock NC. Around a year ago I visited the VA and
measured some girths there since I did not have a laser and clinometer at
that time. They have a decent collection of Norway Spruce, Oak, White &
Shortleaf Pine and Holly. Yesterday, the two tallest Norways I measured were
both 104 feet tall. Both planted side by side. How often do you find two
trees the same height in one outing? They are located on the other side of
Riceville Rd between two large houses across from the VA. The largest
girthed Norway Spruce is 11' 7" cbh but it is off a bit. The tree is so
encrusted in English Ivy and Poison Ivy vines that measuring it is
difficult. But still it is quite fat. It is only 88.5 feet tall. Will id'ed
a Colorado Blue Spruce for me after I sent him the photo.

VA Trees

                            CBH        Height

Norway Spruce                       104.0'

Norway Spruce                       104.0'

Norway Spruce                       89.9'

Norway Spruce                       87.6'

Norway Spruce                       91.1'

Norway Spruce     11' 7"          88.5'

White Oak           15' 11 3/4"   88.6'

Blue Spruce                           51.2'

White Pine          9' 5 1/2"       99.3'          

There is a bamboo ( Cane ) patch on the VA property. Has anyone in ENTS ever
measured how tall bamboo can get?  Also, check out that strange sequoia that
I photographed!

http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/va_hospital/va_ho
spital_trees.htm


I noticed some time back that GE Lighting Systems, where I work has a fair
number of Norway Spruce on their property. One of which I walk by every
workday coming and leaving. Today I went to measure some of them. The plant
was constructed back in 1955 and the trees probably date to then. Ironically
the sizes are comparable to the VA trees. The VA Hospital was built nearly a
hundred years ago but has been re-built since then. The spruces may date to
then, maybe also in the 1950s. The tallest spruces at GE are between the
warehouse and GEEA building in a small grove mixed with White Pine,
Tuliptree and Eastern Hemlock. The hemlock is highly infested with adelgid
and does not have long to live. I know GELS is too damn cheap to treat the
trees, even if notified about them. One decent sized white pine has been
topped by a storm sometime a while back. Some of the hemlocks are close to
100 feet tall.

GE Lighting Systems

                                CBH            Height

Norway Spruce          5' 8"            82.2'

Norway Spruce          6' 4 1/4"      90.1'

Norway Spruce          8' 2"            81.7'

Norway Spruce         7' 4"             62.7'

Norway Spruce         6' 8"            103.3'

Norway Spruce        6' 5 1/2"        94.7'   Splits into 2 trunks about 18
feet up.

Norway Spruce        8' 8"             Under 100 feet. Splits into 3 trunks
about 15 feet up.

Oak                        7' 10"           69.6'

White Pine              9' 2"            Under 100 feet. Broken top.

Work is one place that I don't expect to measure trees. It's better than
what I usually do there!

http://www.nativetreesociety.org/fieldtrips/north_carolina/large_ge_sweetgum
_trees.htm


I stopped and measured another Norway that has a perfect growth form on my
way from GE to McDonalds. It is on Upward Rd near a welding place.

All the photos are from the VA since GE discourages cameras on their
premises.

Afterwards I went to McDonald's and did the math while I ate.



James Parton







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