Will, 



      Kudos to Mike Dunn. I knew there were some dillies in Arizona. However, 
taking the region as a whole, w e do have a few other western measurements( 
excluding the Pacific Coastal Area, which is obviously covered magnificently by 
BVP) . I submitted some for white fir, Douglas fir, and cottonwoods from the 
Wasatch Front in Utah. I also submitted measurements for Rocky Mountain Douglas 
fir from southeastern Idaho from last summer's trip. I wish I could ahve done 
more - a lot more. We need to consolidate our western measurements before they 
become lost in an ocean of emails. I took a few measurements of ponderosa pines 
in the Black Hills and got heights up to 100 feet and slightly over. I 
think that 100 feet is the primary height  threshold for the tallest Black 
Hills trees. They consist of two species: ponderosa pine and Black Hills 
spruce.   With luck, I'll add significantly to the Rocky Mountain inventory 
next year. 



Bob 




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Will Blozan" <[email protected]> 
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 10:00:36 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern 
Subject: [ENTS] Re: Oak Creek Canyon 


Michael, 

Awesome! Finally some real numbers from out west! Did you get any sycamore 
measurements? That is one of my favorite species and saw some sweeties in 
the Chirichua's in 1996. I'll post some shots later. Unfortunately, I was 
there before my laser arrived... 

Will F. Blozan 
President, Eastern Native Tree Society 
President, Appalachian Arborists, Inc. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On 
Behalf Of [email protected] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 10:38 PM 
To: ENTSTrees 
Subject: [ENTS] Oak Creek Canyon 


I was in Prescott, AZ this week for a school conference and was able 
to spend some time in the Oak Creek Canyon of Northern Arizona.  Oak 
Creek drops off of the Mogollon Rim and loses several thousand feet of 
elevation as it winds towards the Red Rocks of Sedona.  This canyon is 
one of Arizona's most breathtaking sites.   The northern and higher 
altitude side of the canyon is dominated by Ponderosa Pines.  In the 
more riparian corners exist stands of Douglas Firs.  Along the creek- 
bed itself are smaller deciduous trees including Western Sycamores and 
Cottonwoods.  I spent the majority of my time tracking down a supposed 
150 foot tall Sycamore.  Instead I found some good looking" yellow 
bellies" aka  Ponderosa Pines. 

P1-127.4 
P2-140.1 
P3-150.5(my personal record) 



Michael B. Dunn 








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