Barry,

I read every post made to the list.  I think most of the members read most of 
what is posted.  I just don't always reply if I don't have any specific comment 
to make.  Portions of your initial post that reintroduced you were incorporated 
into you bio sketch on the ENTS people page (so that shows that at lest someone 
read it.).  I don't always get responses to things that I post either.  I would 
enjoy seeing a more personalized write-up of the New Jersey Pine Barrens from 
your perspective. If you get a website up and going, send me the link and I 
will add it to the website. (I could even help you get the website going if you 
need it)  If you want to write something more like a report, I can add the 
entire thing photos and all to the website.  We have about 28 GB of space left 
for the website that I am paying for and not using.  

Ed

"To the attentive eye, each moment of the year has its own beauty, and in the 
same field, it beholds, every hour, a picture which was never seen before, and 
which shall never be seen again" - Ralph Waldo Emerson
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Barry Caselli 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 4:48 PM
  Subject: [ENTS] Re: roadside Oaks, and the Friendship Elm


        I would like to do that sometime. When I introduced myself here, I did 
a little of that, but it seemed no one read what I wrote, because there weren't 
any responses. A year or two ago someone offered me some webspace to have my 
own website, other than accounts at photo sites. I should really put one 
together.
        Barry

        --- On Tue, 2/10/09, Edward Frank <[email protected]> wrote:

          From: Edward Frank <[email protected]>
          Subject: [ENTS] Re: roadside Oaks, and the Friendship Elm
          To: [email protected]
          Date: Tuesday, February 10, 2009, 1:42 PM


Barry,

You should try to pull together a general overview of the Pine Barrens of 
New Jersey and illustrate it with your photos.  You could include maps from 
other sources (public ones) and talk about the general biology of the 
Barrens focusing on trees, a bit of history.  You have great images in your 
posts and in your websites and galleries.  You should include your 
measurements and personal observations.  Anyone can do a book report type 
article on the area, but when  you add your own observations and give it 
some importance.

Ed


"To the attentive eye, each moment of the year has its own beauty, and in 
the same field, it beholds, every hour, a picture which was never seen 
before, and which shall never be seen again"
Ralph Waldo Emerson
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Barry C" <[email protected]>
To: "ENTSTrees" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 2:10 AM
Subject: [ENTS] Re: roadside Oaks, and the Friendship Elm



Here are pictures of the two oaks I mentioned in Lower Bank. I did not
measure them:
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01337.jpg
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01338.jpg

Here are two pictures of the 8' 4" Friendship Elm, mentioned below.
The first picture showing its Fall Foliage in 2002, and the second
picture was taken a few days ago.
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=img716.jpg
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01350.jpg

Also a scenic picture taken near the Elm:
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01351.jpg

Also the twin Elms in Egg Harbor City that died a few years after I
took the picture:
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=img715.jpg
The stumps are still there, reaching to the tops of the lower story
windows of that house. I know the trees were dead when they were cut.

Here is the old 5' 10 1/2" Pitch Pine at Friendship, mentioned below:
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01341.jpg
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01342.jpg
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01343.jpg
http://s696.photobucket.com/albums/vv327/dbarryc63/?action=view&current=DSC01345.jpg


On Feb 7, 6:17 pm, Barry Caselli <[email protected]> wrote:
> ENTS,
> Yesterday I took a quick roadtrip to measure the Friendship Elm, as I call

> it.
> To get to where that tree is from here, I have to drive through the little

> village of Lower Bank, in Washington Township (Burlington County). Lower 
> Bank dates to the early 18th century. In front of one house there is a 
> huge oak tree. The house next door has another, which is almost as big. I 
> and some friends were in Lower Bank a few years ago, admiring the bigger 
> of the two trees, when I woman through open her upstairs window and asked 
> if we were admiring her tree. We said yes, and she explained that a 
> naturalist came by one day, asking if he could core it to see how old it 
> was. She told us that she wouldn't let him, and that the naturalist
had to 
> take his best guess. She told us that he had said 375 years. That seems 
> too old for the size of the tree, and too old for the age of the village. 
> My memory may be off a bit, and she may have actually told us 275. I'm
not 
> sure. At any rate, I took some pictures through the windshield of my truck

> yesterday on my
> way up to Friendship. One day maybe I will stop by and ask if I could 
> measure the CBH. I will send a couple pictures later.
>
> So I went on to Friendship. Frienship is in the far northern part of 
> Wharton State Forest, and is a ghost town. It was a small village 
> associated with a cranberry growing business called Frienship Bogs, which 
> shut down in the mid 20th Century. The last two families to live there 
> moved out in the late 1950s, or possibly the early 1960s. The few 
> buildings were subsequently burned down by arsonists, very soon after. 
> What you can find there today is a grassy field full of cellar holes and 
> foundations, with a nice, good sized Elm tree in it, along with some 
> younger Pitch Pines and a few Yucca plants. Surrounding this field are 
> regular Pine Barrens forests and cedar swamps, along with all the old 
> Friendship Bogs. I measured the Elm tree at 8' 4" CBH. I will
send a photo 
> of it later. Incidentally, I measured a large Pitch Pine there with a CBH 
> of 5' 10 1/2". The top is broken off and laying on the ground
nearby, and 
> the tree has a large scar on the trunk
> from the ground up.
>
> Also if I can find it, I've got a photo of a nice Colonial Revival
house 
> on US 30 in Egg Harbor City that had two beautiful Elm trees in front of 
> it. Unfortunately the Elm trees died several years ago. I'm not sure
if it 
> was due to drought, or Dutch Elm Disease or what. What's left are the
two 
> stumps, which reach as high as the second story windows on the house.
>
> Barry



 
    

     
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