On Mon, 18 Nov 2002, Jeffrey Higa wrote:

> complaining and how many of them have been actually contacted by B&H's
> Verification department?  I did when I was living in Japan, and it was
> NOT SOME BIG DEAL.
>
> They send you an email with some of instructions, foremost of which is
> that you call them, which I did, and never had to fax a copy of my
> credit card.  I don't recall seeing an option to email a scan of the CC.
> I just answered some questions the verifier asked and that was that.  My

What you describe is quite different from having to send scans (or faxes)
of both sides of your CC. In you're case there was no problem. You did not
have to risk your CC!

BTW, What does it prove if the person who claims to be the owner of the CC
calls B&H? IF B&H would get your phone number from the CC company, and
they would call you, then they'd know they called the right number and
thus quite likely talked to the correct person. That would give
some assurance to them about the customer.

> The perceived inconvenience was more than the actual hassle, which was
> far less painful than a phone call to the cable company or phone

I can call them during the office hours, but B&H would be somewhere in the
middle of the night... quite different kind of hassle to me. Put that IS
totally besides the point. I'm concerned about security, not that much
about inconvenience!

> company.  As someone who has been a victim of credit card fraud three
> times from in-person retail outlets, the B&H Verification Dept.

Seen such a thing very close - and that's why I will never ever send any
CC numbers or scans of CC over email (without PGP). That is like
broadcasting all your CC information to the world! And they even tell you
that is for you own security...

Safe shopping,
        Hugo.

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