Hi!

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From: "Scott Laird" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:14 PM
Subject: Re: EOS OT: Computer Monitors for Photography


> On Nov 4, 2003, at 11:55 AM, Hugo Lopes wrote:
> > Can any one advise on a good source of information on computer monitors
> > suited to photography, with reviews and opinions of *photographers*,

Not really for photographers... but for recent LCD's (and them compared to
some benchmark CRT's) look at http://www.tomshardware.com and there for
instance: http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20030626/index.html
In that round up they measure LCD's against top-range LaCie Monitors
Electron19blueIV (CRT) and Photon20vision (LCD). Good results there. Color
reproduction is interesting reading... specially compared to the LaCie CRT.


> > OT but so far I found nothing, just the usual "your games/DVDs will
> > look
> > great on this monitor". I was hoping some of you guys could point me

They will contain this too...

> Generally, for color-critical work, CRTs do a better job then LCDs,
> although higher-end LCDs (Apple, at least) are getting pretty good.

Well, the new Apples are using new panels, so they might be good. But the
old ones are already old. If you want large LCD, then you should look at
Formac (
http://www.formac.com/p_bin/?cid=solutions_displays_gallery2010_01 ) these
are high end monitor originally for macs (just look at the name) but they
work for PC's too. The gallery 2010 won a review in a good Finnish magazine
over an year ago. It had very good colors. But that is old and I'm not sure
if they have opdated the panel (the 15ms response time indicates that they
might have updated them).
Generally it seems now that the new 17-19 " models are better than models
with 1600x1200 resolution (which for some reason start only at about 20") in
terms of color reproduction. Currently the best seems to be (has won 3
tests - all reputable Finnish magazines, who use calibration hardware for
measurements) Eizo FlexScan L557 (17") which has exceptionally good angle of
view as well as very dark black colors (common problem for LCD's) and very
good color reproduction. Also the white colors can be distinguished from
each other - they are not burned/blurred as in many LCD's. Unfortunately I
can not point you to any online review of this product.

> Conventional wisdom says that cheap LCDs aren't very good for
> photography; I've seen substantial color shifts as the viewing angle
> changes and small gamuts.

Viewing angles are getting to be much better than what they used to be. But
there are ones that are still quite bad. Gamuts are also even better CRT
gamuts for the best LCD's. But contrast is a problem. Blacks are not blacks,
but greys. And as total brightness is not as good, then the over all
contrast is not as good even though the grey levels would be displayed
correctly.

> In either case, you need to profile them if you care about color.

Yes. At least use Adobe Gamma (if you use Photoshop, and therefore have
it) - even that gives better results than nothing at all.

> either one will work.  After that, photography cares about most of the
> same things that everything else does; size and resolution, plus
> refresh rates for CRTs and viewing angles for LCDs.

Yep, but LCDs you do not need to care about the fast moving games or DVD
playback... i.e. the responce time. That does not matter in photography. But
the LCDs that have 16ms responce times - currently - seem to cheat in color
reproduction. Just see the above link to Tom's.

Best regards,
    Hugo.

Ps. waiting to get the Hercules Prophetview 920 Pro which probably has the
same panel as this http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20021211/lcd-03.html
at least according to this
http://www.tomshardware.com/display/20030221/hitachi-03.html ... although
the specs don't quite agree... as you can see, it is quite hard to keep up
with these - but as it seems that Hercules is not going to deliver LCDs
(have been waiting for it over a month now) - I'm probably going to get the
Eizo.

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