Hi,

i agree with Ricardo, but Ronaldo's comments indicate that we should make 
that more clear.
I would also make it crisper how you execute within an iteration. I think 
we are still fuzzy around that...
We describe the right things, you implement an application in 
"micro-increments", with each micro-increment being 1/2-3 days of effort, 
and each micro increment should be tested (TDD) and integrated into your 
build. With 5 people and 4 week iteration, you would have ~50 
micro-increments in an iteration, which roughly correspond to the 30-80 
bugzilla entries we address for an iteration in the OpenUP project...

I do not think this comes out clear, so I will suggest that I write a 
guideline on 'micro increments'.

Cheers

Per Kroll
STSM, Manager Methods: RUP / RMC
Project Lead: Eclipse Process Framework
Rational Software, IBM Corp
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Ronaldo, 

I don't see any conflicts between the management practices suggested by 
Scrum and OpenUP. 
The major building blocks of Scrum are reflected in OpenUP with different 
names (i.e., Work Items List for Product Backlog, Iteration for Sprint, 
Daily Meetings for Daily Scrums, etc). 

The concept of potentially shippable product functionality is inherent in 
OpenUP (and for that matters in other UP processes). The objective in 
every iteration is to demonstrate incremental value to stakeholders, and 
this is functionality that has been integrated and tested - in other words 
a stable build that could potentially be released. That matches with 
Scrum, in my opinion. 

Cheers, 

Ricardo Balduino
Senior Software Engineer

IBM Rational Software (www.ibm.com/rational)
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Is there any conflits in the pratices sugested by OpenUP and the Scrum 
pratices? I haven't seen OpenUP recomending the concept of funcionality 
potentially shippable. Is there some special reason to this?
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