Socratus, I tend to share your view on life and death having to do with presence and absence of photon. As you noted, noting is new as any thought has an ancient echo. For instance Genesis 1 tells us in the beginning was darkness and voidance until the Spirit of God hovered on it - then information went forth and things started happening. At any local environment absence of light leads to death. This light is physical as it is seen and ignites a system into action, but it is also non-physical as it also means information. Without information the system will at most be a busybody. Mike Atovigba
On 5/18/13, epistemology@googlegroups.com <epistemology@googlegroups.com> wrote: > ============================================================================= > Today's Topic Summary > ============================================================================= > > Group: epistemology@googlegroups.com > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/topics > > - SRT by an uneducated Socratus. [2 Updates] > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/c728e294e376fd90 > > > ============================================================================= > Topic: SRT by an uneducated Socratus. > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/c728e294e376fd90 > ============================================================================= > > ---------- 1 of 2 ---------- > From: sadovnik socratus <is.socra...@gmail.com> > Date: May 18 03:31AM -0700 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/msg/dbb350308cd59c99 > > More details. > ============== > Photon and Matter = Life and Death. > =. > Why is connection between Photon and Matter is equal to connection > between Life and Death ? > My explanation. > QED try to understand the interaction between photon and matter. > In 1985 Richard Feynman wrote the result of QED's searching : > ‘ The idea of book - the interaction between light > ( electromagnetic fields ) and matter is strange. > . . . . . . . . . . . > The theory of quantum electrodynamics > describes Nature as absurd from the point of view > of common sense. And it agrees fully with experiment. > So I hope you accept Nature as She is — absurd. ‘ > / book: > QED: The Strange Theory of Light and Matter page 10. / > =.. > Can Nature be absurd ? > Is our intellect or Nature absurd ? > Nature is in a harmony but our acceptation and meaning of It is > absurd. > ==. > Light, quantum of light (photon) is a particle which takes very > important > part in our life. > The interaction of photon with matter is possible to observe > in crystals and in vital organisms. > (every living being needs light / photon.) > Now everyone think that photon is an undeveloped particle and > it seems nonsense to say that photon can evolve, > taking interaction from simple to complex system and > be bearer of information / consciousness. > > But on the one hand, nobody knows what photon is. > On the other hand , photon can move with different speeds: > constant speed c=1 , and faster c>1, and in my opinion > can have zero speed c=0. > ( the common opinion that photon never can stop is not a law, > it is a supposition) > And if photon can use two different inner impulses (spin) > h ( photon behaves like corpuscular ) > and h*=h/2pi ( photon behaves like wave ) > for its independent movement > ( it means photon itself decided how to act, > what kind of movement to do) then I say: > to take decision how to act can only a thinking particle. > And as in the ancient Veda is written t the consciousness > can develop from a vague wish to a clear thought. > =. > The simplest atom hydrogen consists on proton and electron. > Electron tied with atom by the energy: E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV. > But if someone parameter changes, then electron jumps out from > atom as a quantum of light with energy E=h*f ( it is said: electron > emits quantum of light, but where this quantum of light is hidden > in the electron, in which pocket ?) > So, it is possible to say that atom with photon/ electron is > absolutely > different from atom without photon/ electron. > The atom with photon/ electron is a living system. > The atom without photon/ electron is a dead system. > The same is about complex and biological atoms. > ===.. > In the ancient Veda also is written that the Universe is consist on > two > different particles: purusha ( a spiritual or conscious element ) > and > prakrti ( a mechanical-matter particle) > The interaction between mind /consciousness elements and > matter particles created everything. > ==. > There is nothing new under the Sun: > every new idea has some sort of precedent or echo from the past. > ===..==. > All the best > Israel Socratus > ===… > P.S. > I want to thank awori achoka and Philip Benjamin : > reading their comments helped me to come to this conclusion. > =. > > > ---------- 2 of 2 ---------- > From: awori achoka <awori.ach...@gmail.com> > Date: May 18 04:59PM +0300 > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/msg/c64c51a5505909a6 > > Thank you--humbled indeed. > > More thinking needs to go into this--it might just lead us to unravel what > we refer to as, life, nature and consciousness. If as you > conclude--photonic energy determines what is living (and i fully > agree!)--then it is indeed the fundamental life force. Does dark > matter/energy--imply the absence of photonic energy? Am i again absurdly > wrong here? > > > ** > *Committed to strategic visioning and the state of our nationhood. > * > ** > > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Epistemology" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. 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