Hello Socratus.... Sounds to me like the difference between Epistemological Nominalists (like myself and William of Ockham) and Epistemological Phenomenologists ( like Kant-Husserl-Heidegger).....the Phenomenologists, especially Heidegger speak of "Essences"... Have I ever introduced you to my Nominal9 "Epistemological theory... it takes 'thinking tool" elements from Aristotle... his logical square of Contrary - Contradictory.... and from William of Ockham.... his theory of the "triangle of the "sign"... at this stage plug in the distinction between "subjective and objective" and you get the pertinent "problematic.... like below... William of Ockham posited a distinction between the Body and the Mind... that also relates to the Idea and the Thing....the Concept an the Reference (Conceptus /Res in Ockham's terms).... or the Motivation and Action for human interactions..... Cause and Effect is not the same as Action Reaction, because Human interaction is "willingly influenced" by the person doing it... so there is that "motivation" to account for.... Anyway, here are the options, as I consider them
(Plato).......................(Aristotle) Idealism....................Realism Conceptus / Res........Conceptus / Res subjective /subjective..objective / objective subjective / objective..objective / subjective Conceptus / Res.......Conceptus / Res Nominalism...............Phenomenology (Ockham...................(Kant-Husserl-Heidegger) Phenomenology makes use of different terms or words for Conceptus / Res... according to Kant, they are Noumenon / Phenomenon and as you see in the rendered "square) Phenomenologists consider the Noumenon to be objective and the Phenomenon subjective...Phenomenologists also use the term "Essence" interchageably for their (Conceptus) Noumenon here too also objective or as you say, "absolute" conceptions. Also keep in mind that Kant makes the distinction between "A Priori' which means before and/or innate and completely (absolutely) independent from "experience"... and "A Posteriori" which means after "experience" and always dependent on it.... Anyway.... I think that this puts Newton... where?..... and Einstein... where?..... in this classic separation between philosophical schools of thought?.....What is your estimation? What say we consider Newton a Realist.... and Einstein a Nominalist ? On Saturday, November 2, 2013 3:33:01 AM UTC-4, socratus sadovnik wrote: > > Einstein showed ( GRT ) that some kind of moving mass >> >> can create reference frame of gravity space and gravity time >> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Epistemology" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to epistemology+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to epistemology@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.