If 0 denotes the beginning....(if there was a beginning at all) and since we do not know, who God is...and if zero also represents our not knowing...you could be right. On Feb 20, 2015 5:36 AM, "Michael Atovigba" <mikeatovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Israel, Sir, > Owing to spirit attribute of God who is everywhere, I think we should > take God equals 0. > Proof: > just take any arbitrary point in the globe and move in all infinite > directions as a vector. > The sum of magnitudes of all infinite vectors in the universe equals zero. > Take the abstract vector to stand for any attribute of nature and > there lies the proof. > Just a thought sir. > Mike Atovigba. > > On 2/19/15, epistemology@googlegroups.com <epistemology@googlegroups.com> > wrote: > > > ============================================================================= > > Today's topic summary > > > ============================================================================= > > > > Group: epistemology@googlegroups.com > > Url: > > > > > https://groups.google.com/forum/?utm_source=digest&utm_medium=email#!forum/epistemology/topics > > > > > > - God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. / [1 Update] > > http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/c1d38d2110ade53f > > > > > > > ============================================================================= > > Topic: God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. / > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/t/c1d38d2110ade53f > > > ============================================================================= > > > > ---------- 1 of 1 ---------- > > From: socratus sadovnik <isocra...@gmail.com> > > Date: Feb 18 08:31PM -0800 > > Url: http://groups.google.com/group/epistemology/msg/46f62c54116ae4c5 > > > > * God and Soul in Quantum Theory. / By Socratus. /* > > > > *=.* > > > > Can the conception of God and Soul have Physical Background? > > > > My answer is: "Yes, God and Soul have physical background > > > > and can be explained by physical formulas, equations and laws." > > > > I will try to prove my position. > > > > =. > > > > Question: what is God? > > > > The Religious answer: > > > > God is something Absolute, Infinite, Eternal, Spiritual, > > > > the Highest form of Consciousness, Who created everything > > > > in the Universe. > > > > The Physical answer ( in my opinion) is more concrete: > > > > There is an Absolute, Infinite, Eternal Reference Frame and IT is > > > > Vacuum in the condition of Absolute Zero: T=0K, > > > > that take the functions of God and create everything in the Universe. > > > > Zero Vacuum T=0K is a "solo fabric" of creation everything in the > Universe. > > > > Zero Vacuum T=0K is a Metaphysical / Spirit World. > > > > How can I prove my opinion? > > > > 1. God does not create this Material World directly Himself. > > > > 2. To create Material World and everything in It, God uses Spiritual > > Particles. > > > > 3. The modern name of these Spiritual Particles is Quantum of Light. > > > > Quantum of Light is most phenomenal particle in the World. > > > > Quantum of Light is the structural essence of the Material World. > > > > The essence of all material objects is Quantum of Light. > > > > Through the behavior of Quantum of Light we can understand > > > > what an Absolute God has the Highest form of Consciousness. > > > > ==========.. > > > > a) > > > > In the Vacuum Quantum of Light has maximal speed : c=1 > > > > (from our earthly- gravity point of view). > > > > No material particles can ever attain this velocity. It means that this > > > > constant characteristic brings quantum of light to the world which > > > > is different from Material World and this is Vacuum World of Spirits. > > > > b) > > > > Many kinds of so-called different particles (waves) are only different > > > > manifestation / modifications of Quantum of Light. > > > > How can I prove this opinion? > > > > It seems that different particles create different waves: > > EM-waves, Gamma-Radiation waves, Röntgen-Radiation waves, > > Light-Waves, Ultraviolet -waves, Super/Ultra-High-TV-waves, > > Short/Mid/Long wave- length Radio Emission waves . . . but . . > > > > . . . but the energy of each of them is written by formula: E=h*f. > > > > It means that the difference between all these particles / radiations > > > > depends only on frequencies and the background of these modifications > > > > is one and the same particle: Quantum of Light in different > frequencies. > > > > c) > > > > Question: > > > > Why the simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas: > > +E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 , > > > > E=h*f and e^2=ah*c, > > E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞ ? > > > > My answer: > > > > Because an electron and quantum of light / photon and antielectron > > > > are one and the same particle in different actions and conditions and > > > > " The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass " > > > > unites them together. > > > > d) > > > > The Quantum of Light is not static / firm particle. > > > > Quantum of Light is an elastic particle and can change its geometrical > > form. > > > > e) > > > > Through so-called "vacuum fluctuation / transformation" Quantum of Light > > > > can materialize or dematerialize its body ( virtual particle can become > > real > > > > and vice versa) using its own inner impulse h or h*=h/2pi. > > > > (Newtonian physics explains movement as a result of outside influence, > > > > Quantum physics explains movement as a result of own inner power / > impulse > > > > of particle and therefore Quantum physics is only a modern Aristotle's > > metaphysics) > > > > f) > > > > 1. The potential state of Quantum of Light in the Zero Vacuum is: E=Mc^2. > > > > 2. In the straight constant movement its speed is c=1 and its energy is: > > E=hc > > > > Quantum of Light behaves like a "particle". > > > > 3. In the rotation around its axis Quantum of Light behaves like "wave" > > > > with energy: E=h*f. In the Zero Vacuum nobody has influence on > > > > behavior of Quantum of Light. Quantum of Light by himself decided > > > > in which state He wants to be, it means that Quantum of Light has some > > > > kind of consciousness. The consciousness of Quantum of Light can > evolve. > > > > Quantum of Light takes part in creation atom, cell, flower, . . . etc > . . > > > > . and > > > > in creation every living being. And Its evolution of consciousness is > > going > > > > step by step (from atom, cell, flower . . . to living being ) according > to > > > > ancient > > > > Vedas conception: ‘ from vague wish up to a clear thought ’ > > > > g) > > > > Now . . . . . if . . . . > > > > If Quantum of Light have some kind of consciousness which can evolve > > > > and the Absolute Zero T=0K gave the birth to this Spiritual Particles > . . > > > > . . > > > > then . . . . then it means that the T=0K have an Absolute the Highest > form > > of Consciousness. > > > > =====================… > > > > P.S. > > > > The tendency to understand "God" by physical laws, formulas, > > > > equations using the Quantum Theory will be never ended. > > > > a) > > > > Does Quantum Physics Make it Easier to Believe in God? > > < > https://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=2&cad=rja&ved=0CC4QFjAB&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.bigquestionsonline.com%2Fcontent%2Fdoes-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNHEF1v62M7-5nGBk2oivvY7Mq1Dyg&sig2=OHYAG-yHfH-4inM1QtCqEg > > > > > > > https://www.bigquestionsonline.com/content/does-quantum-physics-make-it-easier-believe-god > > > > b) > > > > Does Quantum Physics Prove God's Existence? > > < > http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CEYQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fphysics.about.com%2Fod%2Fphysicsmyths%2Ff%2FQuantumGod.htm&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNHe2WxZXMRYXPFvgfncy94ZQBhwQA&sig2=WGCkLl5JrbOi4qi5MyAiWw > > > > http://physics.about.com/od/physicsmyths/f/QuantumGod.htm > > > > c) > > > > Does quantum theory prove God exists? > > < > http://www.google.co.il/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&frm=1&source=web&cd=10&cad=rja&ved=0CIoBEBYwCQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.asktheatheists.com%2Fquestions%2F1339-does-quantum-theory-prove-god-exists%2F&ei=Kz7vUp7RO8LOhAffgIGgCg&usg=AFQjCNFtz0-bsYFZoBdhGKTNRu2MWyQqPA&sig2=F5wzfFIz14bNRQihBYnFuQ > > > > > > > http://www.asktheatheists.com/questions/1339-does-quantum-theory-prove-god-exists/ > > > > # > > > > In 1954 Einstein wrote: > > > > " All these fifty years of conscious brooding have brought me > > > > no nearer to the answer to the question, 'What are light quanta?' > > > > Nowadays every Tom, Dick and Harry thinks he knows it, > > > > but he is mistaken.'‘ > > > > # > > > > In 1987 *Feynman wrote:* > > > > *‘ It is important to realize that in physics today,* > > > > * we have no knowledge of what energy is.* > > > > * We do not have a picture that energy comes in little* > > > > * blobs of a definite amount. ‘ * > > > > ================ . . . > > > > My concussions: > > > > We don't accepted Absolute Reference Frame T=0K and therefore > > > > we don't know what Quantum of Light and Electron are and therefore > > > > every speculation is possible. I say: > > > > 1) God is simple: T=0K > > > > 2) Soul is simple: Quantum of Light > > > > ( c/d=pi, R/N=k, E/M=c^2, h=0, c=0, i^2=-1, h=E/t, h=kb, > > > > h=1, c=1. h*=h/2pi, c>1, E=h*f , e^2=ach* , e^i(pi)= -1) > > > > 3) Everything else (material) is complex. > > > > ========================…. > > > > # > > > > ‘If we were looking for something that we could conceive > > > > of as God within the universe of the new physics, this ground > > > > state, coherent quantum vacuum might be a good place to start.’ > > > > / Book ‘The quantum self ’ page 208, by Danah Zohar. / > > > > =============== . . . > > > > Best wishes. > > > > Israel Sadovnik Socratus. > > > > ===… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this digest because you're subscribed to updates for this > > group. 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