I was thinking a new separate classloader containing just the Pack200 
classes.  We would still want to delegate to the bootclassloader for 
everything else.  However, I doubt the Pack200 classes are by themselves 
in their own jar that we could just create a URLClassloader for.

This was really just an idea and I haven't really thought very hard about 
the details :)

-Andrew




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If the Pack200 class is loaded from the VM then it will fall under the 
boot class loader. There is no way we can throw that class loader away. 
Are you suggesting that we could somehow load this class from an isolated 
class loader that is not connected to the boot class loader?

Tom



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As Pascal mentioned, when we first started experimenting with Pack200 we 
had memory problems. It seemed that Pack200's internal data was static and 
not cleared between each jar that was packed. So once we had packed a 
reasonable number of jars we started running out of memory. 

It could be that we had been doing something wrong. It is also possible 
that we could work around this by playing with class loaders (under the 
assumption that if the classloader was garbage collected, all that static 
memory would go away). 

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Just out of curiosity, why do you use the external binary to do the 
pack/unpack and not the java.util.jar.Pack200 class? It seems to me that 
a fragment that is EE dependent (require Java 1.5 or higher) would be 
ideal here. Those who run lower then Java 5 simply would not have 
pack200 which is kind of natural isn't it?

- thomas

Jeff McAffer wrote:
> right but there is the practical detail that the exe you need comes 
> with Java 5 or later and the licensing does not likely allow you to 
> ship just the unpack200 exe.  But that is a matter for someone's legal 
> team.  As John says, the unpack support simply cares whether or not 
> the exe is there.
> What we really need is an open source implementation of unpack that 
> runs on/with Foundation...
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>> Just to clarify, the JRE level doesn't matter here. Unpack is 
>> performed by a standalone unpack200 executable that doesn't require 
>> presence of a JVM.  You can run with a Foundation class library, plus 
>> a standalone unpack200 executable from Java 5 or Java 6.
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