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All you people with discussion of inadvertent IFR are right on target. If you get into that cloud and don't have useable instruments, your life expectancy is measured in seconds - from a few to a few hundred. I've heard a survival discussion comparing: 1. "Hell-on-wheels" tactics - armed with high power weapon, backup weapon, knives, body armor, etc. - tromping through the woods, knowing you can handle any danger you encounter - no worries as opposed to 2. "Rabbit" tactics - no weapons but a knife and knowledge that you CANNOT handle any dangerous situation but you MUST, MUST, MUST, AVOID danger. You creep through the woods alert to any sound or sight. You keep to safe cover and stay away from watering holes. You had better not let anything dangerous even *see* you (or smell you). If you are flying in rabbit style, with no gyros, you'd better make absolutely sure you do NOT 'just get a little closer' to the cloudy area to see what it looks like. You do NOT fly at night because there ARE black holes with no ground lights to provide a horizon. You do NOT even think about scud running. By your extreme caution about clouds, you stay away from them - always. Considering that, without instrument training, the survival record of VFR continuing into IFR conditions is miserable. I'd suggest that the ideal situation is to have the instruments, train with them under the hood regularly (more often than once a year), then make SURE you are flying with the mental attitude of the rabbit. I can't fault anyone who keeps the plane light for Sport compliance by removing instruments - but I'd sure urge them to fly like rabbits. Ed Burkhead, rabbit http://edburkhead.com ed -at- edburkheadQQQ.com (change -at- and remove the QQQ) ========================================================================== ==== To leave this forum go to: http://ercoupers.com/lists.htm Search the archives on http://escribe.com/aviation/coupers/
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