Thanks Jeff; I was about to do the same. 

I'm flying less (rats!), driving less, and trying to save fuel when I do 
either.  It's economic and I also prefer to minimize the $ I send out of the 
country and to the troubled Middle East in particular.   

IMHO - In the medium to long run there are going to have to be some significant 
changes to the way we do things, and the answer is NOT alcohol derived from our 
food crops (corn).

Dan Hall
N3968H
CNO
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeffrey R. Lewis 
  To: [email protected] 
  Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 7:30 AM
  Subject: [ercoupe-flyin] Re:Fw: TIPS on pumping gas to get more for your 
dollar


  I got the first part of that e-mail (the tips on getting more gas for your 
money) a while back, before even Snopes had addressed it, and wrote a quick 
response to the guy that sent it to me.  Snopes covers it now, if you'd rather 
read their take on it (http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/household/gastips.asp), 
but I'll still copy what I wrote, too.  Anyway, the main point is, even for 
some of those tips that may be technically true, the cost savings are pretty 
insignificant.  Oh, and as far as the second half of the e-mail, regarding oil 
imports from Middle Eastern countries, Snopes has addressed that, too 
(http://www.snopes.com/politics/gasoline/saudigas.asp).  Most of the 
information is either outdated or flat out wrong.
    Hmm, at first I was thinking it was all technically true, just not very 
significant. The more I think about it, the more insignificant the effects seem.

    The part about a gallon not being a gallon seemed a bit silly to me. I 
realize what the author was trying to get at - that the warmer it is, the less 
dense the gas is, so the less of it you're getting by mass, but their 
explanation was pretty bad. Plus, doesn't the fact that the tanks are buried 
underground mean that temperature stays a lot more constant than if they were 
above ground? I wonder just how much the temperature fluctuates during a day. 
I'd be willing to bet that it's pretty insignificant.

    The part about gas evaporating if your tank's almost empty seems pretty 
silly, too. First of all, unless your tank was completely empty (like newly 
installed, never had a drop of gas in - not likely if you actually drove your 
car to the station), your tank's already full of gasoline vapor. It's probably 
already at its max partial pressure. More gasoline won't evaporate unless you 
get rid of that vapor. But, even assuming that your tank was completely open to 
the atmosphere, gasoline doesn't evaporate _that_ fast.

    I can think of plenty of projects where I've poured gas into a coffee can 
for cleaning a part or something, and I don't see the gas evaporating in front 
of my eyes. It usually doesn't take me more than a few minutes to fill up my 
tank, so I can't imagine that a significant amount of gas would evaporate in 
that time.

    I wonder about the part on pumping gas faster making it evaporate more, 
too.  Same problem as above. Your gasoline may be slightly warmer because 
there's more work being done to it to get it to pump faster, but you've still 
got the problem that you're pumping it into a mostly closed container that's 
already going to be full of gasoline vapor. Plus, it's not like gas stations 
have terribly fast pumps - the pump at the airport I used to work at would put 
out a gallon every couple seconds or so (it was 8 years ago that I worked 
there, so I don't remember exactly).

    Probably the best advice to get the most mileage for your money is to 
adjust your driving habits, and not accelerate hard. I'd bet that would make 
your gas go a lot farther than only filling up on the slow setting on cold days.

    The part about the tanker stirring up sediment seems like good advice, 
though.


  -Jeff Lewis

   


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