Bart,

Thanks for your account of the arrival and departure procedures at 
Sun 'n Fun. Being a freshly minted (almost) Sport Pilot, I am 
apprehensive of these big gatherings. Your description helped me 
understand how it works.

Thanks.

Frank Nelson
N51DV - 415C
TOA

--- In [email protected], "robertbartunek" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I mentioned in a previous note describing arrival procedures at 
Sun-n 
> Fun that I would also describe the departure out of there.  My 
> reasoning is there may be some people who do not attend this event 
and 
> Oshkosh because they are intimidated by what seem to be complex 
> procedures.  Not so.  Everything is predicated on Keeping It 
Simple and 
> safe.
> The Departures on Friday were to commence at 5:30 PM after the Air 
> Show. During the air show the field is closed and there is a red 
flag 
> flying above the control tower, a procedure I might add that dates 
way 
> back probably into the 40's or 50's or earlier.  Well, the 
Thunderbirds 
> were late, screwed up there grand finale bomburst so went back to 
try 
> it again and screwed it up even worse (I am a critical retired Air 
> Force pilot so I can say these things).  
> The Marines had to have a go at showing their stuff so they got an 
F-18 
> and a WWII Corsair airborne to fly some formation over the field 
and 
> they made a couple of passes over the field in formation.  Then 
another 
> couple of passes.  Then another.  Each time they went a few miles 
away 
> from the field to line up there next pass and 5:30 came and went, 
then 
> 6:00 and finally about 6:15 the Marines landed and the red flag 
came 
> down. It was now "gentleman, start your engines" time.  On engine 
> start, one of the marshallers rode his 4 wheeler over to your 
position 
> to excort you from the grass parking area to a taxiway where you 
fell 
> in line, a long, long line of other airplanes taxiing for 
takeoff.  
> Everyone was on a published ground controll frequency but all 
control 
> was exercised by ground marshallers with signs.  Guys on 
motorcycles 
> rode on the side for wingtip clearance and by this time, you were 
going 
> to take off if you wanted to or not.  I had to get back down to 
Naples 
> before sunset flying LSA rules so I was really getting antsy about 
> taking off and arriving before sunset.
> Approaching the active parallel runways, a big sign intructed us 
to 
> change from the taxi frequency to tower frequency.  You initiated 
no 
> calls during taxi or takeoff, only listened and followed 
instructions 
> using Mafia radio rules, i.e., "Everybody a shut up". 
> Some aircraft were directed to cross the inside runway to the 
outside 
> runway so 5 of us booked on across.  The controllers were standing 
on 
> the back of flat-bed trailers with their radios and would clear 
about 6 
> airplanes on the runway at a time then pulse them off one at a 
time.  
> Now, I had spent a lot of time polishing my coupe before I went up 
but 
> it was nowhere near a pretty as Syd's coupe.  However, when it was 
my 
> turn my clearance went like this.  "The CHROME aircoupe is cleared 
for 
> takeoff".  Yay!  It was a straight out departure then turn on 
> course and I made it home with 10 minutes to spare.
> Moral to the story is don't be afraid to go to these events 
because 
> everything runs smoothly and if you screw up, you won't be the 
only one 
> to do so, and as long as no one crashes, nobody really cares.
> Bart
>


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