The "better idea" concept that Ed refers to is similar to many"discoveries" or "awakenings". Bringing awareness and understanding as to the process of infection (and associated necessity of "proper" hygene by medical providers) and the importance of vaccines was similarly objected to by those complacent in their ignorance and irritated by their additional responsibilities in accepting and implementing such new "ideas". The stridency with which such ideas were spread (and mandated) was, indeed, much like historical religious "preaching". Those open to new ideas benefitted first and most among their contemporaries. Each was, in turn, "converted" into a "believer". Over time, humanity benefits (not so much in the third world).

Yes, the Ercoupe is a 1937 design that was radically different and advanced for its time. The "contemporary" Aeroncas, Champs and Taylorcraft designs were more representative of the mindset and technology of the time. From 1941 to 1945, in military aircraft procurement specifications, use of a tricycle gear went from "acceptable" to "desirable" and, ultimately, to mandatory.

The very presence of tricycle gear on the many P-38, P-39, P-61, B-19, B-24, B-25, B-26, B-29, B-36 and the great majority of subsequent jets saved the lives of many allied pilots solely because of their improved ground handling qualities. The Beach Bonanza of the late forties was, I believe, the first postwar trigear design of significant production...of enough further "distinction" with it's V-tail (later abandoned) as to also be the subject of design and handling controversy. .

Postwar Cessnas, Luscombes, Swifts, etc. were obsolete from a design standpoint from the first off the assembly line. Even later trigear designs like the Gumman "Yankee" demonstrate flight characteristics some deem "responsive" that I deem vicious. Any pilot not out to "prove something" wants in his/her aircraft a willing partner to explore the sky...not an adversary ever waiting to pounce and kill upon the slightest lapse of judgment.

The Ercoupe design of 1937 DID essentially eliminate the "stall-spin" that was a primary cause of civilian aircraft fatalities (and which continues to contribute to that toll even today). There existed, in essence, a life and death difference between the operational "manners" demonstrated by a proficiently flown airworthy Ercoupe and most other civilian production designs well into the sixties.

Fred Weick's stillborn 1947 twin engined Ercoach looked a lot like the Aero Commander of the late fifties and thenceforth. His four place now being completed by Marvin Dunlap would have competed well with the North American Navion. Given the benefit of 20-20 hindsight it should be obvious that the aviation industry shot itself in the foot when it did not embrace Fred Weick's ideas and put his brilliant mind in front to lead the parade into an "air minded" future.

In the early fifties the CAA/FAA was setting up to address again the ongoing problem of stall-spin accidents. A contemporary contacted Bob Sanders, at the time involved in completing the last few Ercoupes to come off the line, as to his interest in participating. He declined, stating that if he did, his "words would not be fit for paper". He KNEW of the injustices done. Ahhh, what might have been but for the shortsightedness of industry and the feds.

It remains a fact of life that the Ercoupe is still looked down upon by many in the aviation "community". It is also true that these are NOT the "best and brightest". So, yes...I proudly "preach the gospel" of the Ercoupe, it's manufacturer and it's designer to any and all who will listen. The sole cure for ignorance is knowledge, and any society that rewards ignorance over excellence is destined to become a footnote in history.

"Pants on the ground, hats turned around" people are "in yo face" dumb. Hostility and stupidity insure their unemployability. Few are pilots.

Regards,

William R. Bayne
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(Copyright 2010)

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On Aug 19, 2010, at 13:47, [email protected] wrote:



The quote "I know the nose-first, bounce, PIO situation is a well known event in flying circles.  I suggest it's limited to less well designed aircraft."  We have an airplane that was designed in what?  The late thirties?  Less well-designed aircraft than the Ercoupe? 
It's an airplane, not a religion.
Bart
 

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