On Dec 7, 2007 8:13 PM, maddiin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I took the erlang-logo as an inspiration, thats where the red color
> scheme came from and why the logo was lowercase, to match the "e" of
> the logo. I agree the contrast was a bit too heavy, here is the second
> shot on the layout, a blueish one: 
> http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/6808/erlywebbluedj5.png

Very nice layout and I like the blue colour scheme. I could be happy
with other low-contrast colour schemes as well, I'm quite partial to
green, but the blue is nice.

> I hope you like this one better, else I would need some examples of
> layouts you like to get the idea.

This layout is fine by me.

> The order of the content can of course be changed to what you
> suggested, I just copied the content for a first reference, also the
> headline is just a placeholder because the slogan is in the logo, so
> what you see is not what you get in the end. q:]

I like the sequence. When visiting the home page of a project, I
expect to have the project described and the reasons why I'd want to
use it right there front and centre on the home page. This layout does
just exactly that.

*snip*
> Regarding the documentation, I follow Simon“s opinion. There should be
> documentation from the start off, how to build a page from scratch
> with all necessary stuff like the installation, setting up
> controllers, views, templates (best way for structuring and reusing
> parts of a layout, e.g. header, main-content, sidebar, footer), urls
> configuration, syndication and what not. So beginners can start
> reading in the morning and have a basic app with essentials running
> some hours later. The magic stuff from the musician example is nice,
> but its not helpful to get the idea how erlyweb really works and
> should be used and no one would be running a website this way, at
> least i wont.

Agreed.

Permit me to give you my story. I have been following the Erlang list
for years and have been trying to find time to work through
Programming Erlang since I started receiving the beta copies as PDFs.
I was aware of erlyweb (ErlyWeb?) from the start and tried it back in
the 0.2 days, but was unable to get it to install properly. I asked
for help on the list, but while I did get answers, they didn't seem to
help me.

I am busy to the max with work and also pastor in my "spare time", so
I need very straight-forward, almost boringly and insultingly,
straight-forward set of directions or tutorials. I would even be happy
to beta test any tutorials that others write or, if you could put up
with my stupid questions on the list, I could try writing something
myself by just diving in and trying to get going and screaming for
help every time I get stuck.

While my exact circumstances are perhaps unusual, I strongly suspect
that my needs in the documentation area are very typical. It might be
worth noting that while this list is as friendly as you could wish it
to be (thanks for that folks) the secret of the success of languages
like Perl and Ruby are often noted to be the extreme lengths that
folks will go to to help the newbies. Some really good newbie
documentation would take great strides towards making erlyweb/ErlyWeb
a beginner friendly framework.

Thanks for listening.

Simon

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