On Nov 14, 2008, at 4:48 PM, David-Sarah Hopwood wrote:
David-Sarah Hopwood wrote:
Waldemar Horwat wrote:
Mark S. Miller wrote:
[Kona 15.3.4.5]
11. If the [[Class]] property of /G/ is *"Function"*, then
1. Get the *length* property of /G/.
2. Let /L/ be Result(11a) minus the length of /A/.
[These substeps are actually labelled a. and b.]
What does "minus" mean here? Result(11a) could be anything.
The 'length' property of a built-in object with [[Class]] "Function"
is not Writable or Configurable [Kona 15.3.5.1], so it must be equal
to the number it was set to in either [Kona 13.2 step 7] or
[Kona 15.3.4.5 step 11c or 12], which are the only places where
built-in objects of [[Class]] "Function" are created (and [[Class]]
cannot be changed after creation). But that should be explained in a
NOTE section.
Caveat:
[section 15]
# The value of the [[Class]] property of a host object may be any
value,
# even a value used by a built-in object for its [[Class]] property.
So any random host object might have [[Class]] "Function" (which is a
bug). If that is the case, all bets are off (and in that case steps
11
and 15 of the 'bind' algorithm are broken anyway -- for example, the
'length' or 'prototype' properties of G might not exist).
We didn't resolve this.
Should host objects be required not to have [[Class]] "Function"?
No, I do not think this is a sounds requirement. All native functions
in the DOM are host objects, and I think it would be wrong to disallow
them to have [[Class]] "Function", or to prevent any
Function.prototype methods from working on them.
I would find it acceptable to require any host object that has
[[Class]] "Function" to implement the [[Call]] internal property and
to have a read-only non-deletable property named "length" which has a
numeric value.
Should host objects be required not to have [[Class]] "Array",
"Boolean", "Date", "Decimal", "JSON", "Math", "Number", "RegExp",
or "String"?
I disagree with this requirement as well. For weird web compatibility
reasons, WebKit has a host class that is identical to the native
String class in every way, except that it compares equal to null and
undefined, vended in rare circumstances. I don't think this hurts
soundness of the language and I see no reason to forbid it.
Regards,
Maciej
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