On Dec 22, 2010, at 7:49 PM, David-Sarah Hopwood wrote: > On 2010-12-23 02:48, Brendan Eich wrote: >> On Dec 22, 2010, at 6:39 PM, David-Sarah Hopwood wrote: >> >>> Inspectors can bypass encapsulation regardless of the language spec. >> >> The Inspector is written in ES5. How does it bypass soft field strong >> encapsulation? > > I meant, obviously, that inspectors in general can bypass encapsulation.
I gave an example where weak encapsulation wins and you want to generalize it to include native-code-hosted inspectors. Nope. > OK, you're assuming that the inspector can't read state from closures. It's an object inspector. > So why does it matter that it can't read private fields, given that the > programmer would probably have used closures if they were not using > private fields? We starving startup programmers would probably have done what you wish to change the example? Nope. > The constraint that the inspector be written in ES5 seems to be a purely > artificial one. All of the commonly used browsers have debugger extensions. Nope, our little startup (mine, MonkeyBob's, and ReliableFred's -- plus the boss) is writing a cross-browser framework and app. No native code, let alone deoptimizing magic VM-ported code for each top JS VM. >> Please reply in <500 words. > > No, I'm not going to play your word-counting game. 876. Game over. /be _______________________________________________ es-discuss mailing list es-discuss@mozilla.org https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/es-discuss
