And in general, the main use case for proxies is to emulate host objects. If there is a language construct that helps separating the two cases, we're going against this use case.

David

Le 13/07/2011 10:26, Andreas Gal a écrit :

I really don't think IsProxy is a good idea. It can lead to subtle bugs depending on whether an object is a DOM node, or a wrapper around a DOM node (or whether the embedding uses a proxy to implement DOM nodes or not). In Firefox we plan on making some DOM nodes proxies for example, but not others. I really don't think there is value in exposing this to programmers.

Andreas

On Jul 13, 2011, at 1:23 AM, Tom Van Cutsem wrote:

Perhaps Proxy.isProxy was used merely as an example, but wasn't the consensus that Proxy.isProxy is not needed? Dave pointed out that it breaks transparent virtualization. Also, there is Object.isExtensible which always returns |true| for (trapping) proxies. That means we already have "half" of Proxy.isProxy without exposing proxies: if !Object.isExtensible(obj), obj is guaranteed not to be a proxy.

Cheers,
Tom

2011/7/9 Brendan Eich <bren...@mozilla.com <mailto:bren...@mozilla.com>>

    Also the Proxy.isTrapping, which in recent threads has been
    proposed to be renamed to Proxy.isProxy or Object.isProxy.


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