We are now focused on "new syntax is opt-in" model. No new versions required 
(allowed but not required). Even with new syntax we do not propose to make 
existing syntax change meaning(much or at all) in ES.next.

/be

On Jan 4, 2012, at 3:23 PM, François REMY <fremycompany_...@yahoo.fr> wrote:

> Is breaking current code so much of a problem? If, by default, javascript 
> refers to "ES5" and if we introduce a "use version 6" pragma, breaking old 
> code isn't a problem anymore. Scripting languages on UNIX are doing exactly 
> this [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shebang_(Unix)]. The first line indicate 
> the compiler/interpretor to use. That way you will never break the web, but 
> you allow ECMAScript to move forward. We really need this.
> 
> That doesn't mean we have to start over a new language but if, to make the 
> language better, we have to make some changes that will have a minor impact 
> on existing code (seriously, who is using code blocks at all?), this should 
> not be a blocking issue. The comitee removed the with functionnality in ES5 
> strict. That wasn't a problem. People can still use their old code and can 
> opt-in for a new version with stricter rules.
> 
> For people wanting to convert old code to ES6, there will be automated tools 
> that can predict reliably if your code continues to work under ES6 and can 
> notice you of problems. If those are rare engouh, most of our code will 
> continue to run.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Message d'origine----- From: Brendan Eich
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 12:03 AM
> To: es-discuss
> Subject: Re: Boolean shortcuts
> 
> On Jan 4, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Brendan Eich wrote:
> 
>> On Jan 4, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Herby Vojčík wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> as I already posted in the parallel thread, there is that strawman called 
>>> "do expression" by dherman that does just that.
>>> 
>>> I feel like crying when I see how powerful data constructs could be if not 
>>> hampered by "possible to parse as code block" ambiguity.
>> 
>> Yes, I have felt like crying too -- I did some work (see 
>> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2011-June/015568.html)
> 
> I should have also linked:
> 
> http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:block_vs_object_literal
> 
> Of course,
> 
> http://wiki.ecmascript.org/doku.php?id=strawman:do_expressions
> 
> is much simpler.
> 
> Neither addresses the empty-block/object issue by trying to evaluate {} as an 
> object literal where today it's a block statement.
> 
> /be
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