Andrea Giammarchi wrote:
so is __parent__ ... in the Mozilla world, not in every browser.

That's irrelevant and also it was never writable.

So your point is that __proto__ is a good thing I guess, I thought it was rather a mistake.

I didn't say that. I just said it is old.

Moreover, I am talking about the standard Object.getPrototypeOf() which has been introduced recently, not in 1998, and there's no mechanism to prevent it to return the prototype.

SES and similar "prepared environment" dialects can and do handle things like Object.getPrototypeOf (and __proto__).

I understand now security is highly subjective here and private classes should not exist in a programming language.

No one said private classes should not exist. David mentioned traits. ES5 provides tools for high-integrity abstractions. See http://traitsjs.org/.

/be


Again, **good to know**






On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 1:13 PM, Brendan Eich <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Andrea Giammarchi wrote:

        It is not possible to secure or make a class hidden, it was
        possible before the introduction of __proto__ and
        Object.getPrototypeOf in ES3, now this is gone, and this was
        my security concern.
        ...

        Again, it was possible, now it's not possible anymore.


    By "anymore" you mean since 1998 or so? __proto__ is very old.

    /be


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