Hi,

Thank you so much for your fruitful explanation.

We have a simple idea to implement the requirements. i will explain it now.
I have crafted the idea relying on the following info that you gave about
the clone mediators in a previous mail:

>messageSequence ==> which will be something like 1/4, 3/4, etc...
>     ($message_number/$number_of_cloned_messages)
>     aggregateCorelation ==> the message id of the parent message from
>     which
>     these messages are cloned

The idea:

i will use a Map (indexed by the messageSequence ) and a simple table which
will contain the service related information taken from the message. Both of
them should be available to all the sequences.

I will have two mediators: beforeSend and beforeDrop.

beforeSend mediator is placed just before any send mediator and similarly
for the beforeDrop mediator just before any drop mediator. These are same
for every sequence in the clone.

Inside the beforeSend mediator:

1. store the cloned message into the Map with respect to the
messageSequence. (synchronize)
2. Add service related inforrmation into the table (as sent) .(synchronize)
3. check whether the Map is filled in by every other sequence (as we know
number_of_cloned_messages should be).
    if yes then
        add the service related information from the table into the Message
and then log it
    otherwise continue with the next send mediator

Inside the beforeDrop mediator:

1.  like before
2. Add service related inforrmation into the table  (as not sent).
(synchronize)
3. check whether the Map is filled in by every other sequence (as we know
number_of_cloned_messages).     if no then wait..
    otherwise add the service related information from the table into the
Message and then log it
4. continue with the next drop mediator


As i said i this idea is based on the info you gave in a previous mail and
then i tried to check the source of clone mediator in this link..

http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/synapse/trunk/java/modules/core/src/main/java/org/apache/synapse/mediators/eip/splitter/CloneMediator.java?view=log

and i did not find any get method to get the values of  "message_number " ,
"number_of_cloned_messages", "aggregateCorelation". Now i am wondering what
to do now?

Could you please comment and suggestions about the mentioned idea?


We keep your solution with dbreport as an advance mechanism for latter
exploration.


Thank you.

Riyadh




On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 3:16 PM, Ruwan Linton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> OK Riyadh,
>
> Now your requirement is clear to me. Please see my comments inline;
>
> Riyadh wrote:
> > Hi  Ruwan,
> >
> > We are not concerned about the successful delivery but only
> > successfull sending from  a sequence!!  neverthless the solution that
> > you gave in the last mail was really helpful for me to understand how
> > i can capture the delivery.
> >
> > I am restating my requiremetns again here with the aggregation
> > previous mails:)
> >
> >
> >
> > Requirements:
> >
> > "We have a clone mediator  which clones the  same message to a number
> > of sequence mediators where each sequence mediator contains a set of
> > mediators. Each sequence is basically associated to a service and the
> > sequence itself decides whether the service should receive the message
> > or not. Consequently each sequence has a send mediator at the end in
> > the sequence to send the message to the service.
> >
> > Any sequence mediator in the clone may drop the message before it
> > reaches the send mediator. So requirement does not prohibit sending
> > message out from any sequence if any other sequnce fails.
> >
> > At the end of clone we want to determine that to which services the
> > message was sent and not sent and log this infromation. We will use
> > our custom log mediator to log it. We want to log (containing the
> > information of service endpoints to which the message was sent and not
> > sent ) only once after the clone considering that each sequence in the
> > clone mediates the same message copy.
> Well I think you can use a DBReport mediator before each and every drop
> to report dropped messages to the database and a DBReport mediator after
> the send mediator to report the messages that has been sent out, and
> then write your own custom mediator to log the information fetched from
> the database. In-order to do this you will require the access to a
> database.
>
> I think the above point is clear to you. Have a look at the DBReport
> mediator sample
> (http://wso2.org/project/esb/java/1.6/docs/ESB_Samples.html#Sample361)
>
> Now the problem is how you can figure out the end of the mediation of
> all the cloned messages, so that we can put the custom mediator that you
> are going to write to fetch the information from the database and log
> them as per your requirement.
>
> It is not that easy to find the finishing point because all these are
> independent messages inside synapse, So if it is OK to have some delay
> in logging these messages, you could right a Task
> (http://wso2.org/library/2900)  to log the messages rather than a
> mediator, so that  the task can be scheduled to wakeup in a given
> interval and check for the reported messages in the database and figure
> out the messages which are with a common aggregateCorelation and log
> them and mark them as logged in the database (or delete them from db) so
> that you wont log the same information over and over. Have a look at the
> sample task here
> (http://wso2.org/project/esb/java/1.6/docs/ESB_Samples.html#Task)
>
> Will this be helpful? It is really hard to figure out the end of every
> cloned messages since they are independent and processed in parallel.
>
> Thanks,
> Ruwan
> >
> > Now if any sequence in the clone fails, the message is not sent to the
> > corresponding service. How do i capture the information (containing
> > the  information of service endpoints to which the message was sent
> > and not sent ) at the end of clone?"
> >
> > I hope i could explain better now:).
> >
> >
> > we tryed to use a custom mediator right after the clone (with
> > continueparent = true) thinking that we would get info after the clone
> > and log it once. But we failed to do that!!!! It seems control never
> > passes after the clone!!!
> >
> > Thank you again.
> >
> > Riyadh
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 18, 2008 at 7:50 AM, Ruwan Linton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:
> >
> >     Hi Riyadh,
> >
> >     Riyadh wrote:
> >     > Hi Ruwan,
> >     >
> >     > >>Isn't there a requirement saying that if one sequence drops
> >     the message
> >     > >>non of the sequences are going to send the message out. I
> >     understood
> >     > >>your requirement like that..... Please correct me if I am wrong.
> >     >
> >     > No..my requirement does not prohibit sending message out from any
> >     > sequence if any other sequnce fails. i have to capture only the
> >     > services to which the message was successfully sent from the
> >     > corresponding sequnce.
> >     AAAAAhhhhhhhh... Sorry, I was making it complex. Well, there is no
> way
> >     inside synapse that we can detect the successful delivery at least
> for
> >     the moment. But you could simulate this using the response message
> >     from
> >     the server, assuming this is a two way communication.
> >
> >     You need to set the address to which you send the message as a
> message
> >     property using the property mediator before sending the message
> >     out and
> >     these properties will be available in the response from the server.
> So
> >     when the response arrives to ESB, you could use the above property
> >     that
> >     we set to the message to retrieve the service endpoint, since you
> got
> >     the response you can guarantee that the message has been delivered
> to
> >     the appropriate service.
> >
> >     Will this be OK with you?
> >
> >     Thanks,
> >     Ruwan
> >
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