no reflection on you or etch or anything. just my own personal state, which is wife is job searching and finishing school and i've got a deadline in two weeks with major server features and i love etch and am using it but have no issues really. it just works for me right now.

we had a plan, last year, for adding such features as befits a service oriented architecture: name service, configuration service, router, etc. you can read about those on the wiki. nobody responded to our ideas at the time. i'd like to see c and c++ and python and ruby bindings, fix a few bugs. i would like to contribute bosh / json binding which i have cooking, and my json/ajax(?) binding as well.

the wiki is in a not such a good state, and we could use some help there documenting what we do have and how to use it. there are other things listed in the jira that need doing.

i'd have more energy, i think, if there were folks actively interested in helping and discussing where things should go. it isn't really my job to say where etch should go in the absence of reasonable input from others. cisco informed our direction before, and we had a real need for the things we discussed. i might have a real need for them again. but i don't right now. i guess i'm just a little tired of talking into an empty room.

you could start by saying what it is you are looking for, where do you want to go? what's missing? what would be cool?

scott out

On 4/20/2010 5:13 AM, Holger Grandy wrote:
Hi Scott,
hi Youngjin,

I hope you received our mail and that I should not conclude that no answer is 
also an answer...

What's up with Etch? I guess nobody of the current committers currently has 
time left to actively
develop Etch further. So is there any reason not to answer our mails?

For us Etch is a very useable technology that fits our needs. We actively use 
it and see good technical
reasons for doing so. I know there are others that see it the same way. What is 
your plan for the future of Etch?
We will continue using it and develop for it. But of course the question on the 
sustainability of such an
approch arises. We want to prevent a true fork from the Apache Software 
Foundation.
But at the moment we are really missing arguments on whether to further support 
etch as an incubator
project when there is not even some feedback regarding new contributions from 
the existing developers.

What do you think?

Kind regards,
Holger Grandy
Michael Fitzner


-----Original Message-----
From: Holger Grandy
Sent: Dienstag, 6. April 2010 13:21
To: '[email protected]'; '[email protected]'
Cc: Michael Fitzner
Subject: Etch C Binding - how to continue?

Hi Scott,
hi Youngjin,

did you find some time to look into our C binding source code for Etch?

Today we prepared a new release of the C binding source, available at 
http://github.com/bmwcarit/etch

We have also been working on a wireshark plugin for etch, which is capable of 
reading the idl's symbols
and display etch calls on the wire. The C Compiler for etch has been adopted to 
generate a suitable
symbol list for wireshark. This is not yet finished, but I think we could 
opensource this, too.

How can we proceed with all this? We would really like to see the Etch project 
grow. Is it possible
to submit this source code also to the ASF? We would of course be available as 
committers, if you
want this and if you like the C Binding.

Please give us feedback on what you think about it and make a suggestion on how 
to proceed. We noticed
that Etch in the ASF has become quiet in the last months... Let's awake it 
again :)

Thanks a lot for your answer,

Kind Regards,

Holger Grandy
and
Michael Fitzner


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