Hi,

The “system_time_base less than system time” is from the rtai_rtdm_dc example 
code.

In the example it looks like system_time_base is initialised to zero and 
adjusted by a maximum of +-1001 each cycle.  A value of -58905492552780 
indicates that system_time_base is not being correctly initialised or is being 
corrupted with any other values.

As to the motor “knock” every now and then, this is due to the motors dc clock 
not being correctly synchronized with the masters cycle time.  It is due to the 
master either missing or sending two messages to the amps in one cycle every 
now and then.  Sort out your dc timing and the knock will go away.

Regards,
Graeme.


From: etherlab-users [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Bilko AS, Oguz Dilmac
Sent: Tuesday, 26 January 2016 4:37 a.m.
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [etherlab-users] rtai_rtdm_dc example, "error: system_time_base less 
than system time" message

Hi,

We have been using EtherCAT master 1.5.2 for about two years. We have 
successfully implemented 4 machines. Each has 5 Kollmorgen AKD servo drives and 
some Beckhoff IO modules.
Now we are implementing a new machine. On this machine we usually get the 
following messages:
...
"system2count() error: system_time_base less than system time 
(system_time_base: -58905492552780, time:680659495658"
"system2count() error: system_time_base less than system time 
(system_time_base: -58905492552858, time:680660495658"
"system2count() error: system_time_base less than system time 
(system_time_base: -58905492552936, time:680661495658"
"system2count() error: system_time_base less than system time 
(system_time_base: -58905492553014, time:680662495658"
...

We implemented our system based on the rtai_rtdm_dc example. Only main 
difference is, we use kernel modules with RTAI instead of LXRT user mod.
We are using "cyclic positon" (8) mode with distributed clock.
We choose the first DC capable device as the reference clock by calling 
ecrt_master_select_reference_clock(master, 0);
The first node on the bus is a AKD servo drive.

The error occurs from the startup and not disappear until we reboot the PC and 
the drives.
When the error occurs, it seems sometimes drives can't update the new position 
reference. Therefore, if it is moving, it tries to stop for one sample and 
continues to the new reference at the next sample.
This causes a loud "knock" sound on the machine.

We didn't get this message with previous 4 machines.
We tried different FW versions of the AKD drives. Also tried to change the bus 
node order of the drives. But nothing changed.
Do you know what can be the cause for this message? How can we fix the problem?

Best regards,
Oguz.
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