Hey Eric, Le 13 févr. 2011 à 22:43, Eric Wasylishen a écrit :
> Hey, > > On 2011-02-13, at 4:38 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 13 Feb 2011, at 11:30, Quentin Mathé wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I think we should change the homepage to stop advertising the 0.4.1 >>> release. Any suggestions of what should replace until 0.4.2 release cycle >>> starts? Well we could have something like "0.4.2 coming soon"… >> >> Sounds good. Probably mention that 4.2 will be piecemeal, so we will be >> releasing EtoileFoundation Real Soon Now (i.e. as soon as you're ready), and >> then other bits shortly after. > > On the front page, we could just use > http://etoileos.com/images/features/main3.png for now. Sounds good. > Also, I'd like to take of the "Making computers suck less" title and change > it to "Project Goals" if that is okay with you guys. (I know I was the one > who put it on there in the first place.. but it sounds a bit lame to me now > ;-) I don't mind. Either "Making computers suck less" or "Project Goals" are ok. >>> Another thing I'd like to have is a "sticker" telling clearly that Étoilé >>> is a development environment and not a desktop environment currently. If >>> you download it, you will get a bunch of frameworks but no pretty menus, >>> icons etc. >> >> Yup, although it would be good not to downplay the desktop too much - it's >> still the goal, just not the current state. > > I agree with both points. The front page blurb under "making computers sucks > less" still does a good job of explaining the goal IMHO (maybe it could be a > bit more specific though.) > > Based on mail from people in the past year, we're misleading people in to > thinking Étoilé is more complete than it actually is though, so I think a > "sticker" saying it's still in a framework state is a good idea. ok, we could ask Jesse to think about a new front page image for the 0.4.2 release… And this image could include such a "sticker". >>> And that we won't deliver a desktop environment before a year or so. >>> Should we put this sticker on the homepage or on the main page aka >>> http://etoileos.com/etoile/ ? Should we duplicate these infos on the >>> Downloads page? >> >> No one ever goes to the /etoile page. I expect the Étoilé link at the top >> of the page to take me back to the front page, and I'm surprised when it >> doesn't. > > This is a bad.. > I suggest we rename the "Étoilé" button on the top nav bar to "Overview", > since that's the page's title. Would that be clearer? Yes, much clearer. >>> What should do about the screenshots which gives a false impression that >>> there is a full desktop environment you can download? Remove them? Add a >>> note in the sidebar? >> >> Probably add some notes, maybe remove them because ProjectManager now looks >> quite different to those old screenshots. > > I would remove the screenshots, because to actually build that environment > today would be a huge pain. I think it contributes to confusion about > Étoilé's current status. I agree. But keeping at least one screenshot or mockup would help the page to remain somewhat attractive. > We could show a screenshot of Narcissus, maybe. I haven't worked on it in a > year or so but it's semi complete.. I tried it before the FOSDEM and it looked quite bad, so I don't think it's a good idea. >>> I'm also in favor of removing the Camaelon mention on the main page. Should >>> we replace it by something like a short 'Look & Feel' paragraph? >> >> Yup. Maybe keep a paragraph about Camaelon and say that that the code is >> now merged back into GNUstep. ok >>> For the Downloads page, should we continue to mention 'stable' with a line >>> stating its currently a frozen state? We can just remove it, until we >>> restore the stable-based development model. >> >> No one has touched /stable for ages, so let's just delete it. Done. >> >>> Can I remove all 0.4.1 download links and install documentation on the >>> Downloads page? Or do we want to keep at least a link for the record (like >>> our release history)? >> >> Keep a link and say UNSUPPORTED!!!1111eleventyone in big letters after it. Done. >>> Any other comments or things to suggest? >> >> The open projects page is quite out-of-date now. Maybe we could update some >> things related to bringing the ObjectMerging branch into trunk (what's still >> to do?) >> > Yeah, it's out of date - a lot of those need to be removed. I'm not sure what is out of date… Some projects such as Camaelon, Opal, CoreObject needs to be updated though, but otherwise almost all the things on this page seems to be still valid, no? I'll try to add some new open projects related to EtoileUI and DocGenerator. > Also, I'm happy to make the many small website changes I suggested if they > sound OK. Feel free to do so :-) Well unless somebody has an objection. Cheers, Quentin. _______________________________________________ Etoile-dev mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gna.org/listinfo/etoile-dev
